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NOISEBRIDGE ACCESSIBILITY GUILD MEETING NOTES

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Meeting 2 AUGUST 5 2020

• DATE: AUGUST 5 2020
• TIME: 6PM-7PM
• PARCICIPANTS: lxpk, pyconaut
• AGENDA: Noisebridge Accessibility Policy drafting, Planning Accessibility Buildout, Rikke's report on Tuesday, front door and bathroom ADA usability

Rikke's report

David kenan ada discussion

Rikke: Me and David discussed 3 key items 1 the CASp inspection 2 Basic ada compilance 3 physical improvaments for the space

first david outlined that the reason to get a CASp inspection is to make persciption that will allow for upgrades that if done corectly will portect us from litigation about ADA in the future.

if we dont make all of the perscriptions we could become liable for not folloing the recomendations.

he says we should do it before we move in, partly because when we move in we might cause changes that would require new requirements. We would have a much harder time following the phases

Kim Blackseth is the recommended person (he did the CASp inspectiion for Omni (where sudo roomis)) was about 4k for whole inspection. This process will be expidited by having archatectural floor plans. Also make sure to have upgrade drawings ready as well

it does not need to be notoarised or certified floor plans, they just need to be accurate to scale, for doors and the like.

David is getting a quote for a inclined stair lift vs a verticle elevator

it would be hard to install a full ada compliant stairlift or elevator.

We need to find the proper place to put them.

Start clearing the different bars for ADA, first floor is most importaint, then worry about the second floor.

Wide enough doors, ADA bathroom, make sure anything that could be hosted upstairs can be hosted downstairs if need be are the main first steps.

Front door and bathroom usability

Is the front 2 doors wide enough? Fire door 3 feet is desirable. It SHOULD be. Need to verify.

We eventually want a button openable entry door system tied into our access controls but initially having a usable handle/hook/bar is a start/fallback in case button broken.

What kits can we evaluate and reccommend for purchasing/install? (Add any possibilities you can find and critique here)

Doors

Non-electronic bar/hook door opening kits:

foot door pull (we can make these for free with the steel we already have)

• $30ish https://www.homedepot.com/p/StepNpull-Black-Foot-Operated-Door-Opener-SNPE-BLK/313556677

door panic bar, push door opener

• $130ish https://www.homedepot.com/p/Universal-Hardware-UL-Listed-2-7-16-in-Aluminum-Rim-Panic-Device-with-Standard-Pull-and-Cylinder-40010/203737732

electronic Button open door kits:

  * $585 https://www.amazon.com/Automatic-Swing-Opener-Wireless-Button/dp/B01AG2C7KM

For bathroom we need a new toilet and a ada bar next to toilet. As well as get a touchless faucet.

faucet

• $262 https://www.homedepot.com/p/American-Standard-Paradigm-Selectronic-Base-Model-AC-Powered-Single-Hole-Touchless-Bathroom-Faucet-with-0-5-GPM-in-Polished-Chrome-702B105-002/309415324

grab bar

• $33 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Glacier-Bay-42-in-x-1-1-4-in-Concealed-Screw-ADA-Compliant-Grab-Bar-in-Brushed-Stainless-Steel-20135-03202-42/206767716

ada touchless dual flow toilet

• Still needs research

ACCESSIBILITY GUILD REPORT FOR TUESDAY

To establish minimal viable accessibility of front doors and bathroom during the buildout, we should immediately start by buyng 3 door opener kits and we can metal bend the pullarms ourselves for 0 cost and get 3 $5-600 electronic door arms for approximately $1600 total.

We will research more options between now and next NB Tuesday / NB Accessibility Friday meetings to make specific suitable model recommendations.

FIRST MEETING JULY 24 2020

• DATE: July 24 2020
• TIME: 6:00PST - 7:00PST

Participants (add yourself): Lxpk, Pyconaut, TJ, James

Agenda

• ADA policy draft
• building planning

Building planning

bathrooms elevator doors tables hallways

we need a CASP insection

https://www.dgs.ca.gov/DSA/Resources/Page-Content/Resources-List-Folder/Certified-Access-Specialist-Property-Inspection

Have we talked to DIY Spaces, the peeps who worked with Omni? They focus on accessibility. Diy spaces has a CASp inspector they know

pyconaut, How is your stream broken? I can hear you.

lx, do you have particular items in mind for a policy? Please do. Refresh is good.

ADA Policy

lxpk:

   So I'm not sure what everyone else has in mind for the policy yet but I took a first stab at describing accessibility at noisebridge on the wiki page:

https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Accessibility

Accessibility is a Noisebridge value: We ensure the space, resources and events are as accessible as possible. Noisebridge is currently online only while the space is physically closed and not accessible to anyone but movers. Noisebridge is conducting meetings and events online and will continue to conduct events with online access to facilitate remote participation. The new location will have ground floor doors and is half on the ground floor. Elevator access to the second floor is being developed.

Meetings are being held online. Events like meetups and classes are being held online. We'll do our best to keep things happening online so everyone can participate.

I was brought here by this post on accessibility that I saw: https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/drafting-a-noisebridge-accessibility-policy/1891/19

lxpk: great so there are some drafts there to work with.

Not sure if there are more.

lxpk: we are splitting the task up into 2 parts: an accessibility statement with broad language, and an actual policy.

I'll try to paste it to the wiki...

POLICY

Accessibility Policy

Noisebridge is dedicated to providing an accessible and equally boundary-free experience, regardless of any physical or mental constraints. We consider accessibility and ADA-compliance for people at our events and space to be of the utmost importance in encouraging education, creativity and equal access for all.

In addition, we ask users of Noisebridge to keep in mind the relative social significance of privacy activism in the United States today. The nature of privacy may limit specific access on a case-by-case basis, but never for the sake of simple inconvenience or as an excuse to limit accessibility for those who are otherwise unable to participate at Noisebridge. Different users of Noisebridge have different levels of access to the space and events. We acknowledge that both ableism and disability awareness is not enough to provide and maintain accessibility at Noisebridge.

When you are running an event or presentation at Noisebridge, provide reasonable notice and warning to allow others the opportunity to participate if they wish. With this — as anything else — each person has a responsibility to be considerate of the accessibility levels of others. Participation, projects, and events should strive to exist in a culture of equal access.

Noisebridge shall be as open and accessible as possible - 1mma

“We uphold that the standard of Excellence in this context is to prioritize the access and participation of disabled community members.” - Rikke

Here is a post from Rikke also on two different documents needed... https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/drafting-a-noisebridge-accessibility-policy/1891/7

IMPLEMENTATION=

<unconfirmed> Currently, Rikke and Tyler are reaching out to other hackerspaces to find an ADA inspector </unconfirmed> lxpk: I asked on the discuss.

Start on bathroom and doors, build out plan for the space in Blender

Lxpk: I posted the current draft of the policy on the wiki https://noisebridge.net/accessibility and we'll work more on that and the build plan next week! Thanks everyone for coming.