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===February 5, 2014===
===February 5, 2014===
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(Please note: this page intended as temporary notepad for "leave and come back to talk at a meeting, or don't come back at all" situations - as an alternative to engaging the whole NB-Discuss mailing list. It is not meant to revive broader drama for example the now-blanked-and-locked 85 page.)
February 5, 2014
Rayc was asked to leave by Tom @~7:25, and return in 6 months, for sleeping atop the elevator in December.
February 4, 2014
Andrew Dru Byrne. Asked to leave and come back to a Tuesday meeting. photo
Saturday May 18th 2013
ShadeS was asked to leave in the morning. After prolonged discussion, she did. Hasn't returned to the space as of Wednesday May 29.
Wednesday May 29th 2013
... Donald ... sheesh. Details later. Talked around a razor blade held in his mouth.
Thursday June 13th 2013
I (Jarrod) asked Red to leave in the morning. He did, while hitting the walls and pulling down the cables in the hallway in the process. He was also asked to leave previously on June 11th, by Chase, but did not leave the space.
Wednesday June 19th 2013
(Emailed to Noisebridge-discuss by Leif)
This afternoon I asked an older man named James to leave Noisebridge.
This is loud obnoxious James who used to wear a cowboy hat and be around frequently. Today was the first time I've seen him in several months; I heard he has been in southen california.
Thursday June 20 2013
Wade has been asked to leave the space by Dan and return to a meeting. He has left and may return to the meeting.
Wade just recently started coming to the space and even attended the most recent Tuesday meeting. He has brown hair stands about 5'6" and has been mostly wearing a bright yellow shirt. He has been working on a Pirate Radio station in the DJ booth east of church.
Saturday December 28 2013
Pigeon: I asked Sarah to leave after becoming upset as she was unresponsive to attempts to reason with her about behavior, that I consider to be white supremacist, which made me feel uncomfortable (using the word "n****r" nonchalantly, and even after making at least one person (myself) feel uncomfortable, defending the use as taking the power away from the word, and reversing the conversation to how she feels oppressed, by being called out on being a part of gentrification, while walking in a black ghetto).
Scud and Chrissie
(Here's some perspective excerpted from the Noisebridge mailing list ...)
[...] one of the reasons why the Noisebridge tradition has emerged over the last few years of asking people to leave and come back at meeting is to defuse immediate situations. It doesn't mean anything more than some matter has arisen that the people involved feel uncomfortable handling on their own, and would rather discuss it with the wider community. It's not intended as a punishment. Indeed, if one feels outraged that one will have to spend a maximum of seven days not at Noisebridge, I do rather think one is probably making Noisebridge too much of your life, and need a break anyway. I also strongly believe the following points represent a consensus position at this point, although it isn't the sort of thing that we put through official consensus, it's definitely something that fits with what most of us do when we're doacratically handling these situations. 1. If you're in an argument with somebody that seems irresolvable and looks like it's escalating, you or they should ask the other to leave and come back to meeting. It's okay for both sides to do that, because that gets the confrontation out of the space, and gives time for people to calm down. 2. It's considered excellent to leave and come to the meeting. It counts in your favor. 3. Not leaving isn't excellent, because at that point at least one person is stuck in an immediately intractable problem. 4. Neither is it excellent to leave, and coming back before meeting. Nor should thou take over an hour leaving and then hover around the gate, very slowly picking up your laptop pieces, like with Junior that last time. 5. It's almost certainly not excellent, incidentally, to try and game this by just repeatedly asking people to leave and come back at the next meeting, and then like two minutes after the meeting, ask them to leave and come back to the next meeting, etc. There are many other exploits like this that you can think of. Almost all of them fall under another widely-held hackerspace axiom, "don't be a dick", and won't get you any credit when you come to the meeting with a big grin on your face. Indeed, you may find that the person who did the asking to leave will be in far bigger disgrace than the person who left. This happens. A lot. 5. If you feel ABSOLUTELY outraged about being kicked out, come back at meeting, and almost certainly other people will feel ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGED on your behalf, or perhaps roll their eyes at what happened. It is a good way to see how the rest of the community feels. It is very unlikely that if you are asked to leave for a dumb reason that the rest of the meeting will sympathise with the person telling you to leave. If they do, perhaps your OUTRAGE was misplaced. 6. And yes you are part of a community, and your big "nobody tells *me* what to do" isn't actually the anarchism we practice here. Otherwise you could just turn the place into a satanic ice cream parlor and everyone would be like woooo anarchy, which they would not. Well, maybe at first, but then they would be like why are these arduinos vanilla flavored and melting, and the crying would begin.