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[[Image:Club_mate_logo.jpg|thumb|right|Guy Fawkes gets his Mate on]]
[[Image:Imgp0620.jpg|thumb|right|Club Mate stashed at Noisebridge]]
Club Mate is a not very sweet, dry soda made in Germany.  Super popular with the Hacktiirs,  its pronounced MAH-TEY!  (Cf. Yerba Mate Tea)
Club Mate is a not very sweet, dry soda made in Germany.  Super popular with the Hacktiirs,  its pronounced MAH-TEY!  (Cf. Yerba Mate Tea)


On about 7-28-09 Mitch ordered a pallet (800 bottles) of Club-Mate from 2600 in New York. It has been delivered for $2,657.20 ($657.20 shipping plus $2,000 for the cost of the beverage)
We normally try to keep a good supply of Club Mate at Noisebridge because it is great to drink while hacking.  It's not very common in the states (though getting more so), so it's a bit of a unique feature that we have it. It's also a good fundraiser for us. We normally ask about 4-5 dollar donation per bottle and get them for about half that, so this really helps pay our rent.  


The plan is to sell it at Noisebridge for $4/bottle. If we sold all of them, that would be about $500 net gain for Noisebridge. W00t.
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=Would you chip-in to help bring 800 bottles of Club-Mate to Noisebridge?=
[[Image:Club_mate_logo.jpg|thumb|right|Guy Fawkes gets his Mate on]]
 
[[Image:Imgp0620.jpg|thumb|right|Club Mate stashed at Noisebridge]]
This is a loan. If we sell enough Club Mate, you will be paid back.  If we sell it all, then the rest (after we get paid back) goes to Noisebridge.


* Mitch - I'd be willing to kick in part of the cost
== Ordering Club Mate ==
* Matt - sign me up to chip in a few hundred to make this happen
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* Lee - I'll put up $200
* Lamont Lucas - I'd be in for $200 of that cost
* Brian Ferrell - I'd throw down $20
* dpc - i'd sponsor a 6 pack's journey if just to try it.
* ? (you, gentle reader)


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We normally order our club mate from Ferrymen (www.ferrymen.net). Our contact is Alex Rethwisch and they can be reached at alex at ferrymen dot net.
3-13-14: Club Mate is not available at Noisebridge.
6-21-09: [[User:Gadlen|Lee]], [[User:maltman23|Mitch]] and others are currently working on getting a regular supply of Club Mate to Noisebridge. Lee is pursuing importing from Germany.


When we last ordered in 2018, it was $40 per case. There are additional costs for acquiring or renting a vehicle to cart all the cases to Noisebridge from their storage in Oakland.


[[User:rpw| Ralf (rpw)]] was trying to organize a shipment of Club Mate to San Francisco. He has spoken to Markus Loscher, one of the owners of the [http://www.brauerei-loscher.de Brauerei Loscher] which produces Club Mate on 2009-01-30 and confirmed that there is no exclusive deal between 2600 and Loscher that would impede this operation. Labels with "nutritional facts" already exist and can be directly adhered on the bottles by Loscher.
There are two types of cases (both types are $40 per case):
The current ballpark is 200 cases of Club Mate, ETA is mid-April, before CodeCon. A quote for these 200 cases has been asked for. Apparently the destination port is most likely going to be [http://www.portofoakland.com/maritime/facts_operations.asp Oakland] and not San Francisco, since the [http://www.hamburgsud.com/ Hamburg Süd] port [http://www.hamburgsud.com/WWW/EN/Public_Relations/News/2004/index.jsp no longer services] the Hamburg -> San Francisco route.


== ToDo ==
Original bottles values are 330ml (24 bottles per case) and 500ml (20 bottles per case), equals 11.2 oz and 16.9oz.  But in the US the small bottle is known as 12oz, the big one as 16oz.


* look into FDA approval again. Loscher already has a FDA registration from the last export (to the Last Hope). Another one needed?
The big one has much more Maté for the buck. But fewer per case and the price is higher, so we probably make a bit less when we order the big ones.  
* <strike>get quotes on container prices again. they should have dropped significantly from 2008</strike> it seems to be more recommendable to use an (ocean) freight forwarder.
* get quotes on container insurance
* find driver for route from M&uuml;nchsteinach to Hamburg harbor
* organize logistics on receiving end
* figure out taxing/import duty on receiving end:
** would this be the correct tariff: http://www.faqs.org/rulings/tariffs/22029090.html ?
***Probably not. It looks like it would fall into a "tea or mate" category, which depending on sugar content, it looks like. USITC Tariff Database query results [[tea-tsv|here]]-[[User:Christie|Christie]]
****HTS Number: 2101.20.58: 30.5 cents/kg + 8.5%
****HTS Number: 2101.20.54 10%
***USITC Database:  http://reportweb.usitc.gov/tariff/tariff_form_.jsp
** ask Emmanuel or send clarification request to U.S. Customs (like http://www.faqs.org/rulings/rulings1997HQ959096.html)
* how do we avoid paying taxes in .de ?
** http://www.buyusa.gov/germany/en/vat.html might help with the VAT refund.


The 2600 Hacker Magazine group also sells Club Mate. Normally it's more expensive than ferrymen but once in a while they have a good deal if the Club Mate is going to expire soon.  Shipping is normally more because it ships from New York area.  Contact is Kyle Drosdick. Email is  flyko at 2600.com
A pallet is 48 cases.


==Slogan==
==Slogan==

Revision as of 14:40, 24 June 2019

Club Mate is a not very sweet, dry soda made in Germany. Super popular with the Hacktiirs, its pronounced MAH-TEY! (Cf. Yerba Mate Tea)

We normally try to keep a good supply of Club Mate at Noisebridge because it is great to drink while hacking. It's not very common in the states (though getting more so), so it's a bit of a unique feature that we have it. It's also a good fundraiser for us. We normally ask about 4-5 dollar donation per bottle and get them for about half that, so this really helps pay our rent.


Guy Fawkes gets his Mate on
Club Mate stashed at Noisebridge

Ordering Club Mate

Last updated 2019

We normally order our club mate from Ferrymen (www.ferrymen.net). Our contact is Alex Rethwisch and they can be reached at alex at ferrymen dot net.

When we last ordered in 2018, it was $40 per case. There are additional costs for acquiring or renting a vehicle to cart all the cases to Noisebridge from their storage in Oakland.

There are two types of cases (both types are $40 per case):

Original bottles values are 330ml (24 bottles per case) and 500ml (20 bottles per case), equals 11.2 oz and 16.9oz. But in the US the small bottle is known as 12oz, the big one as 16oz.

The big one has much more Maté for the buck. But fewer per case and the price is higher, so we probably make a bit less when we order the big ones.

The 2600 Hacker Magazine group also sells Club Mate. Normally it's more expensive than ferrymen but once in a while they have a good deal if the Club Mate is going to expire soon. Shipping is normally more because it ships from New York area. Contact is Kyle Drosdick. Email is flyko at 2600.com A pallet is 48 cases.

Slogan

"Man gewöhnt sich daran..." Literally, one gets used to it.

It does have some other meanings, You get used to it...you (can) get accustomed to it or in the sense of (suck it up, it'll be ok) you'll get used to it...or you can build up a resistance to it....weird. Strange slogan... --Charlotte 13:53, 21 June 2009 (PDT)