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=A history of Noisebridge-discuss epic threads=
 
=A history of Noisebridge-discuss epic threads=
There is a [http://noisedrama.tumblr.com/ blog] dedicated to Noisebridge drama.  
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There is a [http://noisedrama.tumblr.com/ blog] dedicated to Noisebridge drama.   But it's moribund.
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[http://shitnoisebridgesays.tumblr.com Shit Noisebridge Says] is up though.
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==The one about children at Noisebridge (77)==
 
==The one about children at Noisebridge (77)==
 
May 2009
 
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November 2010
 
November 2010
 
(no drama for a year?  really?)  Someone was probably sleeping in the space.  Many very philosophical messages about the meaning of 'sleeping' and 'in the space'.  [REDACTED] eventually moved to Japan.
 
(no drama for a year?  really?)  Someone was probably sleeping in the space.  Many very philosophical messages about the meaning of 'sleeping' and 'in the space'.  [REDACTED] eventually moved to Japan.
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==Patrick discovers Noisebridge!==
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December 2010
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We get a new regular, Patrick. When Patrick sees something in the space the he thinks is inefficient or just plain wrong, he mails the mailing list with a precise description of his demands. Many meta discussions about the rules of making rules in a space with no rules result.
  
 
==That one about sleeping in the space(AGAIN)(DEVELOPING)==
 
==That one about sleeping in the space(AGAIN)(DEVELOPING)==
 
December 2010
 
December 2010
 
A couple of people were sleeping in the space on a rainy afternoon.  Pictures of the sleepers were taken, posted to the wiki and emailed to the mailing list.
 
A couple of people were sleeping in the space on a rainy afternoon.  Pictures of the sleepers were taken, posted to the wiki and emailed to the mailing list.
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==That one about Patrick sexually harassing women and subsequently being do-ocratically banned ==
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February 2011
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The aforementioned Patrick picks out from the list and privately sexually harasses female noisebridgers, sees nothing wrong with it when called out, refuses to stop when asked nicely, and is summarily dealt with by do-ocracy.
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==The one about the monk==
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July 2011
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In which the shrine gets caught in [https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2011-July/024213.html an infinite loop]
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==The one about the GMO Ho-Hos==
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March 2013
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In which a perfectly reasonable request for food somehow descends into a [https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2013-March/035544.html discussion of the iniquities of the military-industry-confectionery complex] and how Noisebridge is turning into a "hoodoo-ocracy".

Revision as of 20:41, 29 March 2013

Confrontation is good. People should air their grievances on a regular basis. But drama on public email lists should be discouraged for a number of reasons:

  • It is used to avoid confronting people directly.
  • Real time communication would be much less prone to misunderstanding and more expedient.
  • Any given issue only concerns a small fraction of the list subscribers.
  • Emails of interest are lost in the noise.
  • List drama does not present our best face to the public.
  • Most issues will need to be discussed at a meeting anyway.


Contents

The [drama] Tag

The [drama] tag can be added to the subject line of an email to mark threads which have become dramatic. Anyone can add the tag by replying and adding [drama] to the end of the original subject. The body of that email should explain that the tag has been added but should not comment on the content of the thread. Future posters are asked to keep the tag when they reply to the thread, and failing to do so may be seen as inconsiderate.

Reasons to use [drama]

  • It allows people to create message filters based on the tag (I turn them purple)
  • It's optional and decentralized
  • It doesn't censor a thread, just tags it.
  • It is a gentle reminder to people that they are being dramatic on the internet
  • It's a meme, and memes should be spread

How to recognize a dramatic email thread

  • Someone is unhappy about something other people have done
  • Claims are made that others agree with the author, sometimes listing those people (building alliances)
  • The issue that sparked the dramatic email does not initially concern most of recipients, or even most the people who reply.
  • Emails are much longer than needed, make a case instead of stating facts.
  • Stilted use of language
  • Some poor fool has intentionally invoked Godwin's law.
  • Someone is explaining to someone else how the world really works.
  • An apology is demanded.
  • Someone is saying they don't see what all the fuss is about, or debates the use of the [drama] tag (if it floats it's a witch)

A history of Noisebridge-discuss epic threads

There is a blog dedicated to Noisebridge drama. But it's moribund.

Shit Noisebridge Says is up though.

The one about children at Noisebridge (77)

May 2009 After an unexpected group of children showed up at Noisebridge one day, an extensive discussion regarding children in the space ensues. Whether or not hackers knew how to act in the presence of children was debated. To this day no other unexpected groups of children have arrived at Noisebridge. This thread sparked such great conversations as "Noisebridge Day Care Center" and "adult themed posters in a do-ocracy"

The one about mercury on the table (50)

June 2009 Some droplets of mercury were discovered on the tale at the 83C Wiese space. Extensive discussion over where the mercury came from and the proper protocol for clean up ensued. Noone is sure why we don't have a full haz-mat suit on site yet.

The one about putting stuff in the 'DJ Booth/server room' (64)

Somebody wanted to put some of their stuff in the DJ booth. Some other people complained. Yet other people called those people over controlling. The door to the room was covered over with drywall, and now you need a ladder to climb in through the window.

That one about someone accidentally offending a trans person

At some point someone wrote "Cool story, bro" without realizing they were addressing a trans woman. It did not go over well. Someone who was trans complained that they felt disrespected. Another person claimed it was unintentional. Everyone said they like trans people just fine, and some people said it was a dumb thing to be arguing about.

That one about moving the couch on top of the dark room (20)

November 2009 Somebody put a sofa on top of the dark room as it was still under construction. Someone else took it down. Someone put it back up again, affixing it with screws. Someone wrote an email complaining. The sofa is no longer on top of the dark room (at this writing)

That one about getting wifi from monkeybrains (31+)

November 2009 Someone paid monkeybrains to install a fast wireless internet connection. Someone else thought that it might hurt the effort to install a fiber connection. Lots of people had opinions about how the world works.

That one about [REDACTED] sleeping in the space (?)

November 2010 (no drama for a year? really?) Someone was probably sleeping in the space. Many very philosophical messages about the meaning of 'sleeping' and 'in the space'. [REDACTED] eventually moved to Japan.

Patrick discovers Noisebridge!

December 2010 We get a new regular, Patrick. When Patrick sees something in the space the he thinks is inefficient or just plain wrong, he mails the mailing list with a precise description of his demands. Many meta discussions about the rules of making rules in a space with no rules result.

That one about sleeping in the space(AGAIN)(DEVELOPING)

December 2010 A couple of people were sleeping in the space on a rainy afternoon. Pictures of the sleepers were taken, posted to the wiki and emailed to the mailing list.

That one about Patrick sexually harassing women and subsequently being do-ocratically banned

February 2011 The aforementioned Patrick picks out from the list and privately sexually harasses female noisebridgers, sees nothing wrong with it when called out, refuses to stop when asked nicely, and is summarily dealt with by do-ocracy.

The one about the monk

July 2011 In which the shrine gets caught in an infinite loop

The one about the GMO Ho-Hos

March 2013 In which a perfectly reasonable request for food somehow descends into a discussion of the iniquities of the military-industry-confectionery complex and how Noisebridge is turning into a "hoodoo-ocracy".

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