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=== Start-Up Costs ===
Noisebridge needs money to run. Quite a lot, actually. Its about $5,000/mo.


This section is for estimates of start-up costs. Story so far:
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* Move-in cost for space (assume 3x month's rent) : $6000 assuming $2000/mo rent
* Three months' rent reserve : $6000 assuming $2000/mo rent
* Cost of incorporation as non-profit/LLC/whatever (if we do that) : $444
    - The Company Corporation quotes $444 for their "complete" package for a California corp/LLC/nonprofit, use that for now
    - Note: nonprofit incorporation does not automatically imply we are tax deductible!
* Initial insurance cost : $500 - $2500 per year
* Initial cost for drinks to sell : ?? (May be zero due to Club Mate donations?)
* Initial cost for space improvements, making keys, etc. : ??
* Noisebridge Costco card (if desired vs. some members buying on their own) : $50
* Initial equipment costs (not including donations) : ??
 
Estimate so far for start-up cost: $17449 + ??.
 
[[DavidMolnar]] ideally would like to see 2x whatever this estimated number is as
starting capital, but that may be overkill.
 
 
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=== Monthly Expenses and Dues ===
=== Monthly Expenses and Dues ===


SWAG at monthly expenses:
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* $2k rent (nets ~1k sq ft)
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* $300 utilities (I'm TOTALLY making this up just to have a number, not even sure what all I mean it to include)
! Typical monthly amount
** PG&E, Water? (shared w/ NoStarch?), trash/recycling, insurance split over a year, ISP (I recommend sonic.net)
! Expense category
* $100 misc (toilet paper, juice, resistors)
! Notes
 
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Expected Costs for buying drinks: ? (Check CostCo prices)
|$4,356.00
Expected Revenue from selling drinks: ? (Next number tells us what this is ; )
|Rent
Expected Profit from selling drinks: ~300-800$
|Up from $3960 last year
 
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'''Q.''' (by [[DavidMolnar]] editing w/o logged in): Is this realistic? metalab clears this much, but assuming we can come out of the gate and obtain the same revenue seems optimistic.<br/>
|$789.08
'''A.''' Yeah, 300$ is very realistic - that's like 8 drinks per day sold at a $1.2 profit. Our initial calculations were without drinks too because we didn't believe it. But we had huge sales really quickly. People tend to drink a lot while hanging around at a Hacker Space. --[[User:Enki|Enki]] 12:33, 18 January 2008 (PST)
|Tor Project
 
|Self-supporting but income is counted in our totals
total $2100
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|$526.18
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|Utilities
! number of members
|Will add more info.
! monthly dues
|-
|-  
|$235.35
| 10
|Accounting
| $210
|Mostly CPA fees for dealing with the state
|-  
|-
| 20
|$192.33
| $105
|Garbage & Recycling
|Twice weekly pickup is more expensive
|-
|$189.29
|Printing
|T-shirts and stickers
|-
|$183.48
|Insurance
|An annual expense
|-
|-
| 40
|$180.38
| $52
|Internet
|Monkeybrains and Sonic
|-
|-
| 60
|$161.40
| $35
|Water
|SFPUC
|-
|-
| 80
|$104.74
| $30
|Bank Fees
|Mostly paypal
|-
|-
| 100
|$25.33
| $21
|Misc
|PO box, misc 2169 repair supplies
|}
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=== Committed So Far ===
 
We have collected the following money:
 
* $221 at meeting, held by Mitch Altman
 
Total in hand: $221
 
We have the following pledges:
 
* [[DavidMolnar]] up to $150/mo and $1500 start-up
* [[User:Arcanology | Al Billings]] up to $150/mo and $500 start-up.
* [[User:Matt | Matt]] up to $100/mo and $500 start-up.
* [[User:Adi | adi]] up to $500/mo for 6 months, $300/mo ongoing, and $1000 start-up.
* [[User:Ioerror| JakeAppelbaum]] up to $500/mo for 6 months, $300/mo ongoing, and $1000 start-up.
* [[NateLawson]] at least $100/mo and $500 start-up
* [[User:Marc | marc]] up to $250/mo and $500 start-up
* [[User:Avidd | Davidfine]] $40/mo and my time
* [[User:maltman23 | Mitch]] up to $150/mo and $500 start-up.
* [[User:Rachel | Rachel]] $150/mo ongoing, $1000 startup.
* [[User:AlSweigart | Al]] $30/mo and $150 start-up.
* Others?
 
Total pledged: $2120/mo, $7150 start-up
 
 
 
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=== Opening a Bank Account ===
 
Once we incorporate, we will open a bank account.
 
Anyone interested in making bank recommendations, please contact your favorite bank(s), and add you info about the bank on this page: [[Bank Choices]].  We will choose a bank from these recommendations (at the next meeting?).

Revision as of 13:57, 18 August 2015

Noisebridge needs money to run. Quite a lot, actually. Its about $5,000/mo.

Click here for info on how to pay your Membership Dues.

Monthly Expenses and Dues



Typical monthly amount Expense category Notes
$4,356.00 Rent Up from $3960 last year
$789.08 Tor Project Self-supporting but income is counted in our totals
$526.18 Utilities Will add more info.
$235.35 Accounting Mostly CPA fees for dealing with the state
$192.33 Garbage & Recycling Twice weekly pickup is more expensive
$189.29 Printing T-shirts and stickers
$183.48 Insurance An annual expense
$180.38 Internet Monkeybrains and Sonic
$161.40 Water SFPUC
$104.74 Bank Fees Mostly paypal
$25.33 Misc PO box, misc 2169 repair supplies


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