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== Time and Place ==
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8pm, place:  Noisebridge, [http://maps.google.com/?q=83C+Wiese+St.,+San+Francisco,+CA,+94103 83C Wiese St.] near 16th St. & Mission St., San Francisco
  
 
== Agenda ==
 
== Agenda ==
  
* Open House
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* Halloween Open House
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** Invites
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** Times
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** Projects
 +
** Cleanup
 +
** Shopping trip
 
* Napping Pods
 
* Napping Pods
 +
* Shopping suggestions
 +
** Shop Vac for cleanup
 
* Theft Insurance (David Molnar)
 
* Theft Insurance (David Molnar)
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** Should we install a central alarm system (e.g. from ADT) to obtain theft insurance?
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** Cost for ADT alarm: $250 install, $500/year
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** Cost for theft insurance: TBD based on rating, "around $150" (on top of general/property)
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** One uncertainty: waiting to hear back from insurer who may or may not offer theft insurance w/o alarm
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* Twitter Follow (Steen)
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* Membership Dues, Noisebridge PayPal account, and other Treasurer anouncements
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* Discover magazine story about Noisebridge (Annalee Newitz)
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* Shall we put NYC Resistor sign on front of building, assuming landlord OKs it
  
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* Proposed membership process
  
 
== Notes ==
 
== Notes ==
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Meeting Notes 28 10 2008
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1) Halloween
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* We are having an Open House on Halloween
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* Show off projects - ask us now about how to show your project
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* Snacks + drinks provided
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* Friday 7pm-11pm
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* Costume contest, make your own theme. Judges are the Peoples Party
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Planning Committee
 +
* Shopping trip Thursday afternoon
 +
* No secure locked facility - take your stuff home!
 +
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2) Napping Pods
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* Explained the idea
 +
* Hammocks instead? (again)
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* Consensus: keep talking and working out details
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3) Shopping Suggestions
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* New chairs, courtesy Seth
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* Still want folding chairs
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* Shop Vac - please bring one
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* In the meantime, broom and dustbin in bathroom - please keep shop clean!
 +
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4) Theft insurance
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* Central station alarm requires police inspection
 +
* Alarm means if pulled police will enter the space
 +
* What about false alarms?
 +
* General update on insurance status for general liability and D&O: we
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have qotes, waiting for one more, one conditioned on us getting in the
 +
501c3 application
 +
* Consensus: David M. will make a decision on insurance once we have
 +
quotes, there was one reservation asking for thee quotes but did not block.
 +
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5) Twitter
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* We have a twitter account
 +
* Should noisebridge twitter follow everyone?
 +
* Run like Planet - have it opt-in
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* If you want to be followed, ask Steen
 +
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6) Treasurer Announcements
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* CCC model, hacker space patterns
 +
* Treasurer must be hardass - Mitch isn't but he can act
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* Dues are important!
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* Burn rate includes rent, insurance, utilities
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* October so far 23 people paid dues
 +
* There are > 23 keys
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* Tell Mitch exactly what you want - if you want some donations to go
 +
towards dues say so explicitly
 +
* Two membership rates: $80, $40 "starving hacker"
 +
* Up to you, no questions asked
 +
* Just Jewish Mom Guilt if you're cheap.
 +
* "Can we pay with guilt?"
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* Paypal noisebridge23@gmail.com
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* Paypal costs 3.2% + 29cents
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* Rates figured on 55 people paying
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* Google checkout?
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* Dues are not tax deductible even after we are 501c3
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7) Discover Article?
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* Annalee approached by Discover
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* They are interested in science/tech outside traditional labs,
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universities
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* Noisebridge is science/tech outside traditional bounds
 +
* Article not yet for certain, long period of dancing around
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* Good chance, however, that would happen
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* What does this mean? Interview people
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* Photographer to take pictures
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* If uncomfortable, understand completely
 +
* Not intended to be an "expose" piece!
 +
* Timeframe: April-May or a little later, changes can go in up to
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around 6 months in advance
 +
* Andy: press is scary, lots of people involved
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* Enki: Pres is good, helped metalab
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* Annalee has experience with doing a piece on a commune, living there,
 +
respecting wishes, interviewing under peoples' chosen names
 +
* If looks like Discover wants something contrary to Noisebridge
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interests, Annalee prepared to pull Noisebridge from article
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* Jake: we all speak for Noisebridge as much as anyone else
 +
* "Be excellent to each other"
 +
* Annalee trusted, worked with people in past
 +
* David M: happy Annalee interviewee
 +
* Can have CCC style T-shirt "do not give consent to photograph"
 +
* Can have preannouncement
 +
* Issue: people who have problems will not raise them in public meeting?
 +
* Not taking decision today
 +
* Steen: we have to deal with media, trust Annalee
 +
* Consensus: think about it, bring it up next week
 +
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8) Signs
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* NYC Resistor made signs for us!
 +
* Should we put on the door?
 +
* Put it so no one can destroy it
 +
* Consensus: put signs up
 +
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9) Balance
 +
* We have a new precision balance from ACE Junkyard
 +
* Donations to ACE
 +
* ACE cool place, has power tool drag races
 +
 +
10) Membership Process
 +
* Propose now, come prepared to decide next week
 +
* Form on wiki
 +
* To join, fill out top 3rd, put in applicant binder
 +
* Standing agenda item "Read applicant binder", "Joe, Mary applying"
 +
* Find two people to sponsor
 +
* If have problem, try to resolve problem
 +
* If can't, raise objection at meeting.
 +
* Name, contact - law says we need it
 +
* Why: we have to contact you about meetings and votes
 +
* We don't require ID
 +
* Suggested amendment: have person say everything is true
 +
* Have a nicer logo on the form?
 +
* Waiver of liability as part of the form?
 +
* Non-members here too - separate waivers needed
 +
* Drill press as example of possibly dangerous thing
 +
* NIMBY have waivers?
 +
* Approve or disapprove process at next meeting
 +
* Waivers will be agreed separately - safety committee will discuss -
 +
it's important
 +
 +
11) Host Dorkbot in mid-November?
 +
* Dorkbot: strange things with Electricity!
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* Hosted by Marcella
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* See dorkbot.org
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* Donations at door go to Noisebridge
 +
* Talks TBD, noisebridge projects could be involved
 +
* Time out to discuss orbswarm.com, working on six autonomous spherical
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orb robots that do cool things
 +
* Dorkbot potential dates: 12th or 19th ?
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* Are we big enough? Yes, dorkbot is limited size but offers webcasts
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* Consensus: talk about it, bring it up again next week

Latest revision as of 00:23, 28 November 2008


[edit] Time and Place

8pm, place: Noisebridge, 83C Wiese St. near 16th St. & Mission St., San Francisco

[edit] Agenda

  • Halloween Open House
    • Invites
    • Times
    • Projects
    • Cleanup
    • Shopping trip
  • Napping Pods
  • Shopping suggestions
    • Shop Vac for cleanup
  • Theft Insurance (David Molnar)
    • Should we install a central alarm system (e.g. from ADT) to obtain theft insurance?
    • Cost for ADT alarm: $250 install, $500/year
    • Cost for theft insurance: TBD based on rating, "around $150" (on top of general/property)
    • One uncertainty: waiting to hear back from insurer who may or may not offer theft insurance w/o alarm
  • Twitter Follow (Steen)
  • Membership Dues, Noisebridge PayPal account, and other Treasurer anouncements
  • Discover magazine story about Noisebridge (Annalee Newitz)
  • Shall we put NYC Resistor sign on front of building, assuming landlord OKs it
  • Proposed membership process

[edit] Notes

Meeting Notes 28 10 2008

1) Halloween * We are having an Open House on Halloween * Show off projects - ask us now about how to show your project * Snacks + drinks provided * Friday 7pm-11pm * Costume contest, make your own theme. Judges are the Peoples Party Planning Committee * Shopping trip Thursday afternoon * No secure locked facility - take your stuff home!

2) Napping Pods * Explained the idea * Hammocks instead? (again) * Consensus: keep talking and working out details

3) Shopping Suggestions * New chairs, courtesy Seth * Still want folding chairs * Shop Vac - please bring one * In the meantime, broom and dustbin in bathroom - please keep shop clean!

4) Theft insurance * Central station alarm requires police inspection * Alarm means if pulled police will enter the space * What about false alarms? * General update on insurance status for general liability and D&O: we have qotes, waiting for one more, one conditioned on us getting in the 501c3 application * Consensus: David M. will make a decision on insurance once we have quotes, there was one reservation asking for thee quotes but did not block.

5) Twitter * We have a twitter account * Should noisebridge twitter follow everyone? * Run like Planet - have it opt-in * If you want to be followed, ask Steen

6) Treasurer Announcements * CCC model, hacker space patterns * Treasurer must be hardass - Mitch isn't but he can act * Dues are important! * Burn rate includes rent, insurance, utilities * October so far 23 people paid dues * There are > 23 keys * Tell Mitch exactly what you want - if you want some donations to go towards dues say so explicitly * Two membership rates: $80, $40 "starving hacker" * Up to you, no questions asked * Just Jewish Mom Guilt if you're cheap. * "Can we pay with guilt?" * Paypal noisebridge23@gmail.com * Paypal costs 3.2% + 29cents * Rates figured on 55 people paying * Google checkout? * Dues are not tax deductible even after we are 501c3

7) Discover Article? * Annalee approached by Discover * They are interested in science/tech outside traditional labs, universities * Noisebridge is science/tech outside traditional bounds * Article not yet for certain, long period of dancing around * Good chance, however, that would happen * What does this mean? Interview people * Photographer to take pictures * If uncomfortable, understand completely * Not intended to be an "expose" piece! * Timeframe: April-May or a little later, changes can go in up to around 6 months in advance * Andy: press is scary, lots of people involved * Enki: Pres is good, helped metalab * Annalee has experience with doing a piece on a commune, living there, respecting wishes, interviewing under peoples' chosen names * If looks like Discover wants something contrary to Noisebridge interests, Annalee prepared to pull Noisebridge from article * Jake: we all speak for Noisebridge as much as anyone else * "Be excellent to each other" * Annalee trusted, worked with people in past * David M: happy Annalee interviewee * Can have CCC style T-shirt "do not give consent to photograph" * Can have preannouncement * Issue: people who have problems will not raise them in public meeting? * Not taking decision today * Steen: we have to deal with media, trust Annalee * Consensus: think about it, bring it up next week

8) Signs * NYC Resistor made signs for us! * Should we put on the door? * Put it so no one can destroy it * Consensus: put signs up

9) Balance * We have a new precision balance from ACE Junkyard * Donations to ACE * ACE cool place, has power tool drag races

10) Membership Process * Propose now, come prepared to decide next week * Form on wiki * To join, fill out top 3rd, put in applicant binder * Standing agenda item "Read applicant binder", "Joe, Mary applying" * Find two people to sponsor * If have problem, try to resolve problem * If can't, raise objection at meeting. * Name, contact - law says we need it * Why: we have to contact you about meetings and votes * We don't require ID * Suggested amendment: have person say everything is true * Have a nicer logo on the form? * Waiver of liability as part of the form? * Non-members here too - separate waivers needed * Drill press as example of possibly dangerous thing * NIMBY have waivers? * Approve or disapprove process at next meeting * Waivers will be agreed separately - safety committee will discuss - it's important

11) Host Dorkbot in mid-November? * Dorkbot: strange things with Electricity! * Hosted by Marcella * See dorkbot.org * Donations at door go to Noisebridge * Talks TBD, noisebridge projects could be involved * Time out to discuss orbswarm.com, working on six autonomous spherical orb robots that do cool things * Dorkbot potential dates: 12th or 19th ? * Are we big enough? Yes, dorkbot is limited size but offers webcasts * Consensus: talk about it, bring it up again next week

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