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+ | == Time and Place == | ||
+ | 8pm, place: Noisebridge, [http://maps.google.com/?q=83C+Wiese+St.,+San+Francisco,+CA,+94103 83C Wiese St.] near 16th St. & Mission St., San Francisco | ||
+ | |||
== Agenda == | == Agenda == | ||
− | * Open House | + | * Halloween Open House |
+ | ** Invites | ||
+ | ** Times | ||
+ | ** Projects | ||
+ | ** Cleanup | ||
+ | ** Shopping trip | ||
* Napping Pods | * Napping Pods | ||
+ | * Shopping suggestions | ||
+ | ** Shop Vac for cleanup | ||
* Theft Insurance (David Molnar) | * Theft Insurance (David Molnar) | ||
** Should we install a central alarm system (e.g. from ADT) to obtain theft insurance? | ** Should we install a central alarm system (e.g. from ADT) to obtain theft insurance? | ||
** Cost for ADT alarm: $250 install, $500/year | ** Cost for ADT alarm: $250 install, $500/year | ||
− | ** Cost for theft insurance: TBD based on rating, "around $150" | + | ** Cost for theft insurance: TBD based on rating, "around $150" (on top of general/property) |
** One uncertainty: waiting to hear back from insurer who may or may not offer theft insurance w/o alarm | ** One uncertainty: waiting to hear back from insurer who may or may not offer theft insurance w/o alarm | ||
+ | * Twitter Follow (Steen) | ||
+ | * Membership Dues, Noisebridge PayPal account, and other Treasurer anouncements | ||
+ | * Discover magazine story about Noisebridge (Annalee Newitz) | ||
+ | * Shall we put NYC Resistor sign on front of building, assuming landlord OKs it | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Proposed membership process | ||
== Notes == | == Notes == | ||
+ | Meeting Notes 28 10 2008 | ||
+ | |||
+ | 1) Halloween | ||
+ | * We are having an Open House on Halloween | ||
+ | * Show off projects - ask us now about how to show your project | ||
+ | * Snacks + drinks provided | ||
+ | * Friday 7pm-11pm | ||
+ | * Costume contest, make your own theme. Judges are the Peoples Party | ||
+ | Planning Committee | ||
+ | * Shopping trip Thursday afternoon | ||
+ | * No secure locked facility - take your stuff home! | ||
+ | |||
+ | 2) Napping Pods | ||
+ | * Explained the idea | ||
+ | * Hammocks instead? (again) | ||
+ | * Consensus: keep talking and working out details | ||
+ | |||
+ | 3) Shopping Suggestions | ||
+ | * New chairs, courtesy Seth | ||
+ | * Still want folding chairs | ||
+ | * Shop Vac - please bring one | ||
+ | * In the meantime, broom and dustbin in bathroom - please keep shop clean! | ||
+ | |||
+ | 4) Theft insurance | ||
+ | * Central station alarm requires police inspection | ||
+ | * Alarm means if pulled police will enter the space | ||
+ | * What about false alarms? | ||
+ | * General update on insurance status for general liability and D&O: we | ||
+ | have qotes, waiting for one more, one conditioned on us getting in the | ||
+ | 501c3 application | ||
+ | * Consensus: David M. will make a decision on insurance once we have | ||
+ | quotes, there was one reservation asking for thee quotes but did not block. | ||
+ | |||
+ | 5) Twitter | ||
+ | * We have a twitter account | ||
+ | * Should noisebridge twitter follow everyone? | ||
+ | * Run like Planet - have it opt-in | ||
+ | * If you want to be followed, ask Steen | ||
+ | |||
+ | 6) Treasurer Announcements | ||
+ | * CCC model, hacker space patterns | ||
+ | * Treasurer must be hardass - Mitch isn't but he can act | ||
+ | * Dues are important! | ||
+ | * Burn rate includes rent, insurance, utilities | ||
+ | * October so far 23 people paid dues | ||
+ | * There are > 23 keys | ||
+ | * Tell Mitch exactly what you want - if you want some donations to go | ||
+ | towards dues say so explicitly | ||
+ | * Two membership rates: $80, $40 "starving hacker" | ||
+ | * Up to you, no questions asked | ||
+ | * Just Jewish Mom Guilt if you're cheap. | ||
+ | * "Can we pay with guilt?" | ||
+ | * Paypal noisebridge23@gmail.com | ||
+ | * Paypal costs 3.2% + 29cents | ||
+ | * Rates figured on 55 people paying | ||
+ | * Google checkout? | ||
+ | * Dues are not tax deductible even after we are 501c3 | ||
+ | |||
+ | 7) Discover Article? | ||
+ | * Annalee approached by Discover | ||
+ | * They are interested in science/tech outside traditional labs, | ||
+ | universities | ||
+ | * Noisebridge is science/tech outside traditional bounds | ||
+ | * Article not yet for certain, long period of dancing around | ||
+ | * Good chance, however, that would happen | ||
+ | * What does this mean? Interview people | ||
+ | * Photographer to take pictures | ||
+ | * If uncomfortable, understand completely | ||
+ | * Not intended to be an "expose" piece! | ||
+ | * Timeframe: April-May or a little later, changes can go in up to | ||
+ | around 6 months in advance | ||
+ | * Andy: press is scary, lots of people involved | ||
+ | * Enki: Pres is good, helped metalab | ||
+ | * Annalee has experience with doing a piece on a commune, living there, | ||
+ | respecting wishes, interviewing under peoples' chosen names | ||
+ | * If looks like Discover wants something contrary to Noisebridge | ||
+ | interests, Annalee prepared to pull Noisebridge from article | ||
+ | * Jake: we all speak for Noisebridge as much as anyone else | ||
+ | * "Be excellent to each other" | ||
+ | * Annalee trusted, worked with people in past | ||
+ | * David M: happy Annalee interviewee | ||
+ | * Can have CCC style T-shirt "do not give consent to photograph" | ||
+ | * Can have preannouncement | ||
+ | * Issue: people who have problems will not raise them in public meeting? | ||
+ | * Not taking decision today | ||
+ | * Steen: we have to deal with media, trust Annalee | ||
+ | * Consensus: think about it, bring it up next week | ||
+ | |||
+ | 8) Signs | ||
+ | * NYC Resistor made signs for us! | ||
+ | * Should we put on the door? | ||
+ | * Put it so no one can destroy it | ||
+ | * Consensus: put signs up | ||
+ | |||
+ | 9) Balance | ||
+ | * We have a new precision balance from ACE Junkyard | ||
+ | * Donations to ACE | ||
+ | * ACE cool place, has power tool drag races | ||
+ | |||
+ | 10) Membership Process | ||
+ | * Propose now, come prepared to decide next week | ||
+ | * Form on wiki | ||
+ | * To join, fill out top 3rd, put in applicant binder | ||
+ | * Standing agenda item "Read applicant binder", "Joe, Mary applying" | ||
+ | * Find two people to sponsor | ||
+ | * If have problem, try to resolve problem | ||
+ | * If can't, raise objection at meeting. | ||
+ | * Name, contact - law says we need it | ||
+ | * Why: we have to contact you about meetings and votes | ||
+ | * We don't require ID | ||
+ | * Suggested amendment: have person say everything is true | ||
+ | * Have a nicer logo on the form? | ||
+ | * Waiver of liability as part of the form? | ||
+ | * Non-members here too - separate waivers needed | ||
+ | * Drill press as example of possibly dangerous thing | ||
+ | * NIMBY have waivers? | ||
+ | * Approve or disapprove process at next meeting | ||
+ | * Waivers will be agreed separately - safety committee will discuss - | ||
+ | it's important | ||
+ | |||
+ | 11) Host Dorkbot in mid-November? | ||
+ | * Dorkbot: strange things with Electricity! | ||
+ | * Hosted by Marcella | ||
+ | * See dorkbot.org | ||
+ | * Donations at door go to Noisebridge | ||
+ | * Talks TBD, noisebridge projects could be involved | ||
+ | * Time out to discuss orbswarm.com, working on six autonomous spherical | ||
+ | orb robots that do cool things | ||
+ | * Dorkbot potential dates: 12th or 19th ? | ||
+ | * Are we big enough? Yes, dorkbot is limited size but offers webcasts | ||
+ | * Consensus: talk about it, bring it up again next week |
Latest revision as of 07:23, 28 November 2008
Time and Place[edit]
8pm, place: Noisebridge, 83C Wiese St. near 16th St. & Mission St., San Francisco
Agenda[edit]
- Halloween Open House
- Invites
- Times
- Projects
- Cleanup
- Shopping trip
- Napping Pods
- Shopping suggestions
- Shop Vac for cleanup
- Theft Insurance (David Molnar)
- Should we install a central alarm system (e.g. from ADT) to obtain theft insurance?
- Cost for ADT alarm: $250 install, $500/year
- Cost for theft insurance: TBD based on rating, "around $150" (on top of general/property)
- One uncertainty: waiting to hear back from insurer who may or may not offer theft insurance w/o alarm
- Twitter Follow (Steen)
- Membership Dues, Noisebridge PayPal account, and other Treasurer anouncements
- Discover magazine story about Noisebridge (Annalee Newitz)
- Shall we put NYC Resistor sign on front of building, assuming landlord OKs it
- Proposed membership process
Notes[edit]
Meeting Notes 28 10 2008
1) Halloween * We are having an Open House on Halloween * Show off projects - ask us now about how to show your project * Snacks + drinks provided * Friday 7pm-11pm * Costume contest, make your own theme. Judges are the Peoples Party Planning Committee * Shopping trip Thursday afternoon * No secure locked facility - take your stuff home!
2) Napping Pods * Explained the idea * Hammocks instead? (again) * Consensus: keep talking and working out details
3) Shopping Suggestions * New chairs, courtesy Seth * Still want folding chairs * Shop Vac - please bring one * In the meantime, broom and dustbin in bathroom - please keep shop clean!
4) Theft insurance * Central station alarm requires police inspection * Alarm means if pulled police will enter the space * What about false alarms? * General update on insurance status for general liability and D&O: we have qotes, waiting for one more, one conditioned on us getting in the 501c3 application * Consensus: David M. will make a decision on insurance once we have quotes, there was one reservation asking for thee quotes but did not block.
5) Twitter * We have a twitter account * Should noisebridge twitter follow everyone? * Run like Planet - have it opt-in * If you want to be followed, ask Steen
6) Treasurer Announcements * CCC model, hacker space patterns * Treasurer must be hardass - Mitch isn't but he can act * Dues are important! * Burn rate includes rent, insurance, utilities * October so far 23 people paid dues * There are > 23 keys * Tell Mitch exactly what you want - if you want some donations to go towards dues say so explicitly * Two membership rates: $80, $40 "starving hacker" * Up to you, no questions asked * Just Jewish Mom Guilt if you're cheap. * "Can we pay with guilt?" * Paypal noisebridge23@gmail.com * Paypal costs 3.2% + 29cents * Rates figured on 55 people paying * Google checkout? * Dues are not tax deductible even after we are 501c3
7) Discover Article? * Annalee approached by Discover * They are interested in science/tech outside traditional labs, universities * Noisebridge is science/tech outside traditional bounds * Article not yet for certain, long period of dancing around * Good chance, however, that would happen * What does this mean? Interview people * Photographer to take pictures * If uncomfortable, understand completely * Not intended to be an "expose" piece! * Timeframe: April-May or a little later, changes can go in up to around 6 months in advance * Andy: press is scary, lots of people involved * Enki: Pres is good, helped metalab * Annalee has experience with doing a piece on a commune, living there, respecting wishes, interviewing under peoples' chosen names * If looks like Discover wants something contrary to Noisebridge interests, Annalee prepared to pull Noisebridge from article * Jake: we all speak for Noisebridge as much as anyone else * "Be excellent to each other" * Annalee trusted, worked with people in past * David M: happy Annalee interviewee * Can have CCC style T-shirt "do not give consent to photograph" * Can have preannouncement * Issue: people who have problems will not raise them in public meeting? * Not taking decision today * Steen: we have to deal with media, trust Annalee * Consensus: think about it, bring it up next week
8) Signs * NYC Resistor made signs for us! * Should we put on the door? * Put it so no one can destroy it * Consensus: put signs up
9) Balance * We have a new precision balance from ACE Junkyard * Donations to ACE * ACE cool place, has power tool drag races
10) Membership Process * Propose now, come prepared to decide next week * Form on wiki * To join, fill out top 3rd, put in applicant binder * Standing agenda item "Read applicant binder", "Joe, Mary applying" * Find two people to sponsor * If have problem, try to resolve problem * If can't, raise objection at meeting. * Name, contact - law says we need it * Why: we have to contact you about meetings and votes * We don't require ID * Suggested amendment: have person say everything is true * Have a nicer logo on the form? * Waiver of liability as part of the form? * Non-members here too - separate waivers needed * Drill press as example of possibly dangerous thing * NIMBY have waivers? * Approve or disapprove process at next meeting * Waivers will be agreed separately - safety committee will discuss - it's important
11) Host Dorkbot in mid-November? * Dorkbot: strange things with Electricity! * Hosted by Marcella * See dorkbot.org * Donations at door go to Noisebridge * Talks TBD, noisebridge projects could be involved * Time out to discuss orbswarm.com, working on six autonomous spherical orb robots that do cool things * Dorkbot potential dates: 12th or 19th ? * Are we big enough? Yes, dorkbot is limited size but offers webcasts * Consensus: talk about it, bring it up again next week