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== Agenda ==


== HOWTO moderate a meeting ==
[[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 142nd Meeting of Noisebridge]


Anyone can moderate the meeting, though it helps a great deal if you have been to a meeting before.
Note-taker: Danny O'Brien


0. '''Say "Five minutes to meeting!".''' This will give you time to read these instructions.
Moderator: Danny O'Brien


1. Get someone to '''grab the membership binder'''. It is kept near the shrine, which is currently on the south wall, between the electronics and sewing areas.  
It was a total nightmare. First of all, Josh organised this whole
[[https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2011-January/019411.html
"Show and Tell"]] (Tuesdays, 7.30) thing right before, so instead of limbering
up for proper consensus and correct producedure,  everyone sat around looking
at Mike's ingenerious elevator light LED hack and how he planned it, and
[[http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8938 a new kind of logic analyser]] that's
basically just six wires and a USB connector, and some routers(?). Then they
all discussed the hacks they were working on, and some ideas they were mulling,
and sought out advice and shared knowledge with their peers.


2. '''Get someone to take notes.''' Point the shocked and bemused note-taker to the sub-instructions below these instructions.  
It was unfortunately so "interesting" that by the time anyone wanted to stop,
it was 8.20 already so basically we'd already screwed up the whole rules and
procedures of the meeting. Nice job, Josh. _Real_ smooth. I kept waiting for
someone to sue us for this, but they didn't.  


3. (Optional) '''Get someone to put this wiki page up on the projector'''.
Then I tried to get [User:Dr_jesus Dr Jesus] to head the meeting, because he
looks like a natural leader, doesn't he? But he was too busy talking to
[User:Gpvillamil Gian Pablo] about how to repair the Makerbot, and seemed almost happy
at shirking his genetic responsibilities.


4. Skim '''read through the Agenda''' below that to get a feel for what a meeting looks like.
By 8.30 I realised that I was going to have to head the meeting
"do-acratically" myself before our previously finely-tuned decision-making
process descended into unmanageable chaos.


5. People may have added '''Discussion Items''' to this page, or they may raise them during the meeting. If they emerge during the meeting, suggest that they be discussed _in_ the Discussion Item section, rather than derail other sections of the meeting. Discussion for these can be open-ended, but you should aim to wrap up the meeting within an hour. It can be handy to explicitly summarise what people intend to do as a result of the discussion. There is no requirement on you, Noisebridge the organization, or anyone else to do anything as a result of a discussion.
I went and got the member binder and started noisily flicking through it, which
I thought would at least shut people up. Finally I worked out how to get the
projector screen to come down, but couldn't get the video to work. That
attracted a few people's attention who "wanted to help me".


6. If there are '''Consensus Items''', ensure that they were raised in meeting last week (the membership needs a week's warning for consensus items). Your main job in consensus is to listen to what everyone is saying, make sure everyone gets a chance to say something, and then -- if the debate is beginning to go round in circles or settle -- propose a Position that everyone seems to agree on. If people disagree with the Position, they will wrangle some more, or someone else will propose a Position. If no-one disagrees with the Position, say "So do we consense on $POSITION?". If no one objects, ask the note-taker to record the Position. If things are getting nowhere and we're all getting bored and antsy, identify the people objecting, and ask them to discuss the problem with the proposers of Consensus Item outside the meeting, and return next week with a compromise solution.
It was time to consense.


7. '''Shout "Meeting starts now!" now''', and start reading (out loud) through the Agenda!
=== Introduction and Names ===


8. '''When you are done, consult with the note-taker,''' and make sure they know what they have to do to finish their job -- especially updating the wiki, and mailing nb-discuss, and the treasurer with new membership details.
UNFORTUNATELY, just when I was getting to bit where I explain to everyone what
Noisebridge is, our code of honor, how to get here if you're not here already
etc, Miloh started being disruptive and un-excellent and said "Hey, everyone
knows this stuff here, right?.


9. '''Put back the membership binder''' by the Shrine.  
As moderator, I quickly established consensus through a show of hands that
everyone indeed knew this stuff.


10. '''Bathe in the glow''' of the respect of your fellow Noisebridgers.
Miloh then proposed that instead of doing the usual meeting procedure, we
should have a guided tour of the space, revealing secrets that many people did
not know, even members.


Before I had a chance to even THINK of blocking, everyone bloody consensed on
this too.


=== HOWTO note-take a meeting ===
Look, can I at least read out the binder names? I correctly whined.


0. Your moderator should give you five minutes to '''read these instructions'''. If they don't, say "Woah there cowboy, I need to know what I'm doing. Five minutes, por favor!"
But it was too late, everyone was following Miloh around to see the electronics
lab and heard a bunch of so called "secret knowledge" like what a Hell Box is,
where you can find Quagga, how easy it would be to program the life-playing Big
LED sign to do other stuff, how to get an account on pony, how cool the $500
de-solderer is, how to use John's new flat storage area in the FabLab, how you
should put empty bottles by the third sink because we're going to be making a
load of Kambucha, pondered on whether we should keep the shrink-wrap machine,
learned the secret Masonic History of 2169 Mission, and the true origin of some
of Noisebridge's most famous smells.


1. This page should have a URL like "https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2010_12_28", with today's date in it. If doesn't, copy [Meeting Notes Template] to a wiki page with that kind of URL. If you don't know how to copy wiki pages, say, "Can someone help me with the Noisebridge Wiki?", and get them to create a page with that kind of URL, and then show you how to copy this page to it and edit it.
I tried writing all of this down, but our meeting notes don't even have a
category for stuff like this. I therefore ruled myself out of order and deleted
it.


2. '''Edit this page.''' Add notes under each category -- you can delete any placeholder explanatory text as you go.
I did scribble down everyone's names though, as per procedure, and for
purposes of future prosecution. If you want to know these secrets, which go
against every principle of openness Noisebridge stands for, you could ask [Jack
[User:Jack Jack],


3. '''Save the wiki page when you're done''' (no-one expects you to finish as the meeting is finished; it usually takes a half-hour or so after the meeting to get everything in order). Try to hyperlink stuff that should be linked. You can delete all this patronising instructional crap. Here's [Meeting_Notes_2010_12_28 an example] of finally edited meeting.
[User:Miloh Miloh] of course, and [User:Carl User:Cobolt]. Gescykae and John
Neurofog were also troublemaking (both of whom don't even have User pages yet,
which is I believe a violation of our lease).


4. '''Create a page for next week's meeting''', by copying over the template page to an URL with next week's date in it (see step 1). If anybody proposed Consensus Items for next week, write them in here, and add them to the [[Current Consensus Items]].
=== Financial Report ===
 
5. If there were any consensus items decided at your meeting, '''add them to [[Consensus Items History]], and take them out of the [[Current Consensus Items]]'''.
 
6. Go to [https://www.noisebridge.net/&action=edit&section=3 the front page meetings notice] and edit the page that ''so that the Prev and Next meetings now point to this meeting notes, and the new meeting notes you just created respectively'''. (If that link is broken, it's a section half-way down the [[https://www.noisebridge.net/ front page]]
 
7. '''Important!''' Send a final copy of the notes to '''noisebridge-discuss''', and '''email treasurer@noisebridge.net the details of any new members''' (you can get all the details from the membership binder, which may now be hidden over by the shrine.)


8. Chill out, have a cocktail with a friendly robot, continue to rock the world.
Kelly wasn't around, because if she had been, I'm sure this mess-up could NOT HAVE HAPPENED.


== Agenda ==
== Membership Binder ===


[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 142nd Meeting of Noisebridge]
No new members, but a bunch of people getting close. Chandra and Jack, turn up
to next meeting to be induced into the Academy of People Who Don't Have The
Common Decency to Listen When You're Moderating them.


Note-taker: FIXME YOUR NAME HERE
=== What's Going On At Noisebridge ===


Moderator: FIXME THEIR NAME HERE
Apparently, "everyone knows this shit seriously Danny let it go".
 
=== Introduction and Names ===
* [[Noisebridge_Vision|What Noisebridge is about]]: "Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."
* Round of introductions: What's your name, what do you do, and if you are new, how did you hear about Noisebridge? Start with the moderator and go left.
* [[Consensus Process|A brief primer on consensus process]]: We agree and so should you! Only paid-up members can block consensus.


=== Announcements ===
=== Announcements ===


=== Financial Report ===
Someone announced they were going off to fix the door-opening mechanism.
Funds in bank:
Everyone wandered off to help. WTF? WE'RE NOT EVEN DONE.


=== Membership Binder ===
=== Consensus Items ===
* Read off any names from the binder for the past month.
* Anyone up for join this week should introduce themselves then leave the area in search of gifts (traditionally beer and a lime) for the rest of the group. The rest of the meeting should consense on whether they may join.


=== What's Going On at Noisebridge ===
None. I suggested we debate banning someone for the space for what they said on
''One '''short''' sentence about each of the following:''
noisebridge-discuss that one time, but everyone continued to have "better
things to do". I was pretty much crying at this point.


===== Weekly =====
=== Discussion Items ===
<!----
The following events are listed with day of week, time the session starts, and location.
For locations at Noisebridge, see a map of the [[2169_map|2169]] location of Noisebridge.
--->
For locations at Noisebridge, see a map of the [[2169_map|2169]] location of Noisebridge.


* [[Circuit_Hacking_Mondays|Circuit Hacking Mondays]] (Monday, 7PM,  E Lab)
Finally! [User:Adi Andy] turned up and pointed
* [[iPhone OS developer weekly meetup]]  -- (Monday, 6PM, A. Church) Meetups are becoming increasingly well attended, interested Noisebridge folks are encouraged to sign up at http://meetup.com/iphonedevsf , as that is where any important announcements and discussions take place. Contact [[User:Nickthedude | Nickthedude]] with any questions.
out that do need to consense about what voting system to use for the board
* [[Pyclass]] - Mondays (Monday, 7PM, A. Turing)
elections.  
* [[Cooking_Classes |Tastebridge cooking class]] - (Tuesday, ~5PM, NoiseKitchen)
* [[Probability]] (Tuesdays, 7.30pm, A. Church)
* [[Unityversity |GameDevelopment]] - (Wednesday, 7PM, E Lab/Main Hall]]
* [[Cultured_Drinks_Brewing_Program |Tastebridge culturing]] - (Wednesday, ~6PM, NoiseKitchen)
* [[SCoW]] craft group - (Wednesday, 7PM, SCoW area)
* [[Machine_Learning]] - (Wednesday, 7:30PM, A. Church)
* Linux System administration certification study group - (Wednesday, 6PM, A. Turing)
* [[Spacebridge]] - (Sundays, Main Hall)
* Knots, [[Go]], and [[Locks!]] - (Sunday afternoon, Main Hall)


===== Non-weekly =====
Please do this next week, PROPERLY. I have carefully expanded
* [[Hackathon Second Saturday]] are Noisebridge buildout days.
[Meeting_Notes_Template the meeting template] documentation so a meeting can
* [[Five Minutes of Fame]]
never go this far wrong ever ever again.
* Bay Area Hackers Association - (Second Sunday, 2PM)


=== Project Updates ===
It is consoling to me that more documentation can fix almost any problem.


=== Consensus items ===
=== End of Meeting ===


=== Discussion Items ===
I said that I was going home to write up the meeting notes. Miloh said "Hey,
can you do it in the form of a mid-nineties cyberpunk novel this time?", and
everyone started telling me what kind of awesome character they should be.


''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current_Consensus_Items|Current Consensus Items]] page.)''
You know what? You people totally deserve each other.
 
=== End of Meeting ===
* [[PGP|PGP Key Signing]] could happen now, check the [[PGP|list]] to see who wants in on the action.
* Put back the membership binder by the Shrine at the northeast corner.
* Save the meeting notes to the wiki.
* Send a copy of the meeting notes to the discussion list.
* Copy the [[Meeting Notes Template]] for next week's agenda and update the main wiki page's link to it.
* Enjoy a cocktail with your fellow hacker or robot.


[[Category:Meeting Notes]]
[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Revision as of 00:55, 5 January 2011

Agenda

[The 142nd Meeting of Noisebridge

Note-taker: Danny O'Brien

Moderator: Danny O'Brien

It was a total nightmare. First of all, Josh organised this whole [[https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2011-January/019411.html "Show and Tell"]] (Tuesdays, 7.30) thing right before, so instead of limbering up for proper consensus and correct producedure, everyone sat around looking at Mike's ingenerious elevator light LED hack and how he planned it, and [a new kind of logic analyser] that's basically just six wires and a USB connector, and some routers(?). Then they all discussed the hacks they were working on, and some ideas they were mulling, and sought out advice and shared knowledge with their peers.

It was unfortunately so "interesting" that by the time anyone wanted to stop, it was 8.20 already so basically we'd already screwed up the whole rules and procedures of the meeting. Nice job, Josh. _Real_ smooth. I kept waiting for someone to sue us for this, but they didn't.

Then I tried to get [User:Dr_jesus Dr Jesus] to head the meeting, because he looks like a natural leader, doesn't he? But he was too busy talking to [User:Gpvillamil Gian Pablo] about how to repair the Makerbot, and seemed almost happy at shirking his genetic responsibilities.

By 8.30 I realised that I was going to have to head the meeting "do-acratically" myself before our previously finely-tuned decision-making process descended into unmanageable chaos.

I went and got the member binder and started noisily flicking through it, which I thought would at least shut people up. Finally I worked out how to get the projector screen to come down, but couldn't get the video to work. That attracted a few people's attention who "wanted to help me".

It was time to consense.

Introduction and Names

UNFORTUNATELY, just when I was getting to bit where I explain to everyone what Noisebridge is, our code of honor, how to get here if you're not here already etc, Miloh started being disruptive and un-excellent and said "Hey, everyone knows this stuff here, right?.

As moderator, I quickly established consensus through a show of hands that everyone indeed knew this stuff.

Miloh then proposed that instead of doing the usual meeting procedure, we should have a guided tour of the space, revealing secrets that many people did not know, even members.

Before I had a chance to even THINK of blocking, everyone bloody consensed on this too.

Look, can I at least read out the binder names? I correctly whined.

But it was too late, everyone was following Miloh around to see the electronics lab and heard a bunch of so called "secret knowledge" like what a Hell Box is, where you can find Quagga, how easy it would be to program the life-playing Big LED sign to do other stuff, how to get an account on pony, how cool the $500 de-solderer is, how to use John's new flat storage area in the FabLab, how you should put empty bottles by the third sink because we're going to be making a load of Kambucha, pondered on whether we should keep the shrink-wrap machine, learned the secret Masonic History of 2169 Mission, and the true origin of some of Noisebridge's most famous smells.

I tried writing all of this down, but our meeting notes don't even have a category for stuff like this. I therefore ruled myself out of order and deleted it.

I did scribble down everyone's names though, as per procedure, and for purposes of future prosecution. If you want to know these secrets, which go against every principle of openness Noisebridge stands for, you could ask [Jack [User:Jack Jack],

[User:Miloh Miloh] of course, and [User:Carl User:Cobolt]. Gescykae and John Neurofog were also troublemaking (both of whom don't even have User pages yet, which is I believe a violation of our lease).

Financial Report

Kelly wasn't around, because if she had been, I'm sure this mess-up could NOT HAVE HAPPENED.

Membership Binder =

No new members, but a bunch of people getting close. Chandra and Jack, turn up to next meeting to be induced into the Academy of People Who Don't Have The Common Decency to Listen When You're Moderating them.

What's Going On At Noisebridge

Apparently, "everyone knows this shit seriously Danny let it go".

Announcements

Someone announced they were going off to fix the door-opening mechanism. Everyone wandered off to help. WTF? WE'RE NOT EVEN DONE.

Consensus Items

None. I suggested we debate banning someone for the space for what they said on noisebridge-discuss that one time, but everyone continued to have "better things to do". I was pretty much crying at this point.

Discussion Items

Finally! [User:Adi Andy] turned up and pointed out that do need to consense about what voting system to use for the board elections.

Please do this next week, PROPERLY. I have carefully expanded [Meeting_Notes_Template the meeting template] documentation so a meeting can never go this far wrong ever ever again.

It is consoling to me that more documentation can fix almost any problem.

End of Meeting

I said that I was going home to write up the meeting notes. Miloh said "Hey, can you do it in the form of a mid-nineties cyberpunk novel this time?", and everyone started telling me what kind of awesome character they should be.

You know what? You people totally deserve each other.

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