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== HOWTO moderate a meeting ==
 
  
Anyone can moderate the meeting, though it helps a great deal if you have been to meetings before.
 
 
#'''Say "Five minutes to meeting!".''' This will give you time to read these instructions.
 
#Get someone to '''grab the membership binder'''. It is kept near the shrine, which is currently on the south wall, between the electronics and sewing areas.
 
#'''Get someone to take notes.''' Point the shocked and bemused note-taker to the sub-instructions below these instructions.
 
#(Optional) '''Get someone to put this wiki page up on the projector'''.
 
#Skim '''read through the Agenda''' below that to get a feel for what a meeting will looks like.
 
#People may have added '''Discussion Items''' to this page, or they may raise them during the meeting. If they emerge during the meeting, suggest that they be discussed _in_ the Discussion Item section, rather than derail other sections of the meeting. Discussion for these can be open-ended, but you should aim to wrap up the meeting within an hour. It can be handy to explicitly summarise what people intend to do as a result of the discussion. There is no requirement on you, Noisebridge the organization, or anyone else to do anything as a result of a discussion item.
 
#If there are '''Consensus Items''', ensure that they were raised in meeting last week (the membership needs a week's warning for consensus items). Your main job in consensus is to listen to what everyone is saying, make sure everyone gets a chance to say something, and then -- if the debate is beginning to go round in circles or settle -- propose a Position that everyone seems to agree on. If people disagree with the Position, they will wrangle some more, or someone else will propose a Position. If no-one disagrees with the Position, say "So do we consense on $POSITION?". If no one objects, ask the note-taker to record the Position. If things are getting nowhere and we're all getting bored and antsy, identify the people objecting, and ask them to discuss the problem with the proposers of Consensus Item outside the meeting, and return next week with a compromise solution.
 
#'''Shout "Meeting starts now!" now''', and start reading (out loud) through the Agenda!
 
#'''When you are done, consult with the note-taker,''' and make sure they know what they have to do to finish their job -- especially updating the wiki, and mailing nb-discuss, and the treasurer with new membership details.
 
#'''Put back the membership binder''' by the Shrine.
 
#'''Bathe in the glow''' of the respect of your fellow Noisebridgers.
 
 
 
=== HOWTO note-take a meeting ===
 
#Your moderator should give you five minutes to '''read these instructions'''. If they don't, say "Woah there cowboy, I need to know what I'm doing. Five minutes, por favor!". Use exactly those words.
 
#This page should have a URL like "https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2010_12_28", with today's year, month and date in it. If doesn't, copy [Meeting Notes Template] to a wiki page with that kind of URL. If you don't know how to copy wiki pages, say, "Can someone help me with the Noisebridge Wiki?", and get them to create a page with that kind of URL, and then show you how to copy this page to it and edit it.
 
#'''Edit this page.''' Add notes under each category -- you can delete any placeholder explanatory text as you go.
 
#'''Save the wiki page when you're done''' (no-one expects you to finish as the meeting is finished; it usually takes a half-hour or so after the meeting to get everything in order). Try to hyperlink stuff that should be linked. You can delete all this patronising instructional crap. Here's [Meeting_Notes_2010_12_28 an example] of a finally edited meeting.
 
#'''Create a page for next week's meeting''', by copying over [[Meeting Notes Template]] to an URL with next week's date in it (see step 1). If anybody proposed Consensus Items for next week, write them in here, and add them to the [[Current Consensus Items]].
 
#If there were any consensus items decided at your meeting, '''add them to [[Consensus Items History]], and take them out of the [[Current Consensus Items]]'''.
 
#Go to [https://www.noisebridge.net/&action=edit&section=3 the front page meetings notice] and edit the page that ''so that the Prev and Next meetings now point to this meeting notes, and the new meeting notes you just created respectively'''. (If that link is broken, it's a section half-way down the [[https://www.noisebridge.net/ front page]]
 
#'''Important!''' Send a final copy of the notes to '''noisebridge-discuss''', and '''email treasurer@noisebridge.net the details of any new members''' (you can get all the details from the membership binder, which may now be hidden over by the shrine.)
 
#Chill out, have a cocktail with a friendly robot, continue to rock the world.
 
  
 
== Agenda ==
 
== Agenda ==
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[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 162th Meeting of Noisebridge]
 
[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 162th Meeting of Noisebridge]
  
Note-taker: FIXME YOUR NAME HERE
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Note-taker: [[User:Lizzard| Liz Henry]]
  
Moderator: FIXME THEIR NAME HERE
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Moderator: [[User:Malaclyps|Danny O'Brien]]
 
   
 
   
  
 
=== Introduction and Names ===
 
=== Introduction and Names ===
 
* [[Noisebridge_Vision|What Noisebridge is about]]: "Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."
 
* [[Noisebridge_Vision|What Noisebridge is about]]: "Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."
* Round of introductions: What's your name, what do you do, and if you are new, how did you hear about Noisebridge? Start with the moderator and go left.
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* Round of introductions: Danny. Max from Portland. Mike, Kelly who hacks brains and your money, the guy eating dinner, some people at other table, John the australian guy, Shannon, and some Arduino people, Randall, Alex, Ilya the guy doing Hack Politics, Ryan, Julian, Philip who is writing code, Steve here for the first time, and the entire German Corner.
* [[Consensus Process|A brief primer on consensus process]]: We agree and so should you! Only paid-up members can block consensus.
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=== Announcements ===
 
=== Announcements ===
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What's going on at Noisebridge. Go look at the wiki. We have 5 minutes of fame, we did lots of Maker Faire things, vegan hacking coming up, SF chapter of the Open organization of lock pickers who will do their event as soon as they can break in. BioBridge, Django, etc. Danny explains [[BioBridge]] which is an Arduino thing set up to sense things about the [[Kombucha brewing log|kombucha]]. They measure turbidity, temperature, ph, and so on. They got a [[Maker Faire 2011]] editor's choice award.  Hey, cool, the brewing project spawned an electronics project.  [[Second Saturday]] is coming up in 3 weeks for June and is for infrastructure hacking.  We are a do-ocracy etc etc.  New guy Ryan asks who to talk with because his company is just donating some servers. Kelly says to email the rack list (https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo) and ask.
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Crutcher is putting together a group on meta-heuristic optimization.  He has been putting a lot of time into it lately and wants to know if anyone else is interested.
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=== Financial Report ===
 
=== Financial Report ===
Funds in bank:  
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Funds in bank: 16,913.79. Rent has not gone through yet, so subtract rent from that.  There is also another transfer about to go through.  Tshirt money from Maker Faire has not come in yet. 
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Our taxes.  Which were late.  We forgot to file an extension.  Our tax guy, we have issues with him. He did our taxes last year and they were screwed up.  He had to redo them and claimed his assistant did them wrong. OUr treasurer caught the errors.  He said he would do our taxes for free this year in exchange.  Maybe that wasn't such a good idea.  We should have hired someone else.  He told us the late fee was $20 a month but the IRS tells us it is $20 per business day , since the 16th.  We sent him our information on the 19th and we haven't heard back from him and then finally this morning heard from him.  He can't get to our stuff for another week or so. ($20 a day).  What do people think we should do at this point?
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We don't pay any taxes, we just file a 990N.  But it is complex enough to need someone professional to do it for us.  How did we find this guy?  He's a hipster accountant. T*x N*nja. Feedback from people at the meeting: Why would we ever trust this guy again?
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What other non profits might talk with us about what they do or rec us a tax person? Hackerdojo? Walk SF?  Box Shop? 
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=== Membership Binder ===
 
=== Membership Binder ===
* Read off any names from the binder for the past month.
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Ryan Salisbury is now been read for 4 weeks and is up for membership
* Anyone up for join this week should introduce themselves then leave the area in search of gifts (traditionally beer and a lime) for the rest of the group. The rest of the meeting should consense on whether they may join.
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Eric Steinberg
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Ryan wants to be a member because the space looks interesting and could be useful to him, tools are awesome, and he wants to support the space and the work it does. Crutcher who is wearing a red shirt that says BLOCK asks if he likes arguments that go on and on and on and on. Ryan says, give him an example of an argument. And that some are good for the mailing list, like bedbugs, which he has seen no evidence of. Kelly grills Ryan on his feelings about consensus decision making. Ryan mentions radical bike activism and thinks consensus okay but would tend to drop out of exhausting long arguments rather than blocking for reasons he doesn't feel very strongly about it. Alex says he has good insight into plasma treating polyurethane or something. Woo!  Gosh we are asking Ryan quite a lot of questions.  Ryan contributed to iChat's videoconferencing framework and various other software projects. People are asking Ryan quite a lot of questions. We devolve into general Apple dev gossip. Apparently he brought several 6 packs already. He goes off to Safeway for a while.
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Ryan is discussed briefly and is now a member.  
  
 
=== What's Going On at Noisebridge ===
 
=== What's Going On at Noisebridge ===
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===== Non-weekly =====
 
===== Non-weekly =====
 
* [[Second Saturdays]] are Noisebridge hackathon:
 
* [[Second Saturdays]] are Noisebridge hackathon:
a casual monthly event
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a casual monthly event dedicated to working on the space or relevant projects and building
dedicated to working on the space or relevant projects and building
 
 
community.  This is a great time to get feedback or help on any projects
 
community.  This is a great time to get feedback or help on any projects
 
you have been considering that center around the space, culture, and
 
you have been considering that center around the space, culture, and
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=== Consensus items ===
 
=== Consensus items ===
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(Danny O'B up for secretary)
  
 
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current_Consensus_Items|Current Consensus Items]] page.)''
 
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current_Consensus_Items|Current Consensus Items]] page.)''
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=== Discussion Items ===
 
=== Discussion Items ===
  
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Danny recuses himself from being the moderator for the meeting since he is the subject of it. Item, that Noisebridge make Danny O'Brien secretary. This was discussed last week. Some people expressed uneasiness that Danny has TOO MUCH POWER.
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Crutcher, who is wearing a hilarious bright red tshirt that says BLOCK on it, remarks that Danny looks rather shifty.
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What does the secretary do?  They interface with companies for us. They see to it that notes are taken at meetings. They negotiate with insurance so Kelly doesn't have to, and track the membership stuff.  Stuff that is necessary which isn't actually bookkeeping. Kelly just wants a helper to do a bunch of work, basically, and Danny has agreed to do it.
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No one blocks. 
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Danny adds in that SETH HAS BEEN VERY AWESOME as secretary.
  
 
=== End of Meeting ===
 
=== End of Meeting ===

Latest revision as of 14:18, 26 May 2011



Agenda[edit]

The 162th Meeting of Noisebridge

Note-taker: Liz Henry

Moderator: Danny O'Brien


Introduction and Names[edit]

  • What Noisebridge is about: "Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."
  • Round of introductions: Danny. Max from Portland. Mike, Kelly who hacks brains and your money, the guy eating dinner, some people at other table, John the australian guy, Shannon, and some Arduino people, Randall, Alex, Ilya the guy doing Hack Politics, Ryan, Julian, Philip who is writing code, Steve here for the first time, and the entire German Corner.


Announcements[edit]

What's going on at Noisebridge. Go look at the wiki. We have 5 minutes of fame, we did lots of Maker Faire things, vegan hacking coming up, SF chapter of the Open organization of lock pickers who will do their event as soon as they can break in. BioBridge, Django, etc. Danny explains BioBridge which is an Arduino thing set up to sense things about the kombucha. They measure turbidity, temperature, ph, and so on. They got a Maker Faire 2011 editor's choice award. Hey, cool, the brewing project spawned an electronics project. Second Saturday is coming up in 3 weeks for June and is for infrastructure hacking. We are a do-ocracy etc etc. New guy Ryan asks who to talk with because his company is just donating some servers. Kelly says to email the rack list (https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo) and ask.

Crutcher is putting together a group on meta-heuristic optimization. He has been putting a lot of time into it lately and wants to know if anyone else is interested.


Financial Report[edit]

Funds in bank: 16,913.79. Rent has not gone through yet, so subtract rent from that. There is also another transfer about to go through. Tshirt money from Maker Faire has not come in yet.

Our taxes. Which were late. We forgot to file an extension. Our tax guy, we have issues with him. He did our taxes last year and they were screwed up. He had to redo them and claimed his assistant did them wrong. OUr treasurer caught the errors. He said he would do our taxes for free this year in exchange. Maybe that wasn't such a good idea. We should have hired someone else. He told us the late fee was $20 a month but the IRS tells us it is $20 per business day , since the 16th. We sent him our information on the 19th and we haven't heard back from him and then finally this morning heard from him. He can't get to our stuff for another week or so. ($20 a day). What do people think we should do at this point?

We don't pay any taxes, we just file a 990N. But it is complex enough to need someone professional to do it for us. How did we find this guy? He's a hipster accountant. T*x N*nja. Feedback from people at the meeting: Why would we ever trust this guy again?

What other non profits might talk with us about what they do or rec us a tax person? Hackerdojo? Walk SF? Box Shop?


Membership Binder[edit]

Ryan Salisbury is now been read for 4 weeks and is up for membership Eric Steinberg Ryan wants to be a member because the space looks interesting and could be useful to him, tools are awesome, and he wants to support the space and the work it does. Crutcher who is wearing a red shirt that says BLOCK asks if he likes arguments that go on and on and on and on. Ryan says, give him an example of an argument. And that some are good for the mailing list, like bedbugs, which he has seen no evidence of. Kelly grills Ryan on his feelings about consensus decision making. Ryan mentions radical bike activism and thinks consensus okay but would tend to drop out of exhausting long arguments rather than blocking for reasons he doesn't feel very strongly about it. Alex says he has good insight into plasma treating polyurethane or something. Woo! Gosh we are asking Ryan quite a lot of questions. Ryan contributed to iChat's videoconferencing framework and various other software projects. People are asking Ryan quite a lot of questions. We devolve into general Apple dev gossip. Apparently he brought several 6 packs already. He goes off to Safeway for a while.

Ryan is discussed briefly and is now a member.

What's Going On at Noisebridge[edit]

One short sentence about each of the following:

This is the active list of events from the main page:

Key:
E - Every week.
1st - Certain weeks, e.g. 1st week only.
-2nd - Except certain weeks, or other schedule exceptions.

Sundays[edit]

  • E 1:00 pm - 5:00 pm Noisebridge is open!


Mondays[edit]

(We need someone to commit to opening/closing on Monday!)

Super Tuesdays![edit]

  • E 7:00 pm Noisebridge Weekly Meeting - Introducing new people and events to the space, general discussion, and decision-making on key issues. This is your space, folks. Come on out here in person to express what you think about what's going on with it! You can also join online via Jitsi.

Wednesdays[edit]

  • (Looking for a Wednesday host!)

Thursdays[edit]

  • E 4:30 pm - 8:30 pm Space is open!
  • E 6:00 pm NeurotechX SF hacknights, check on NeuroTechSF meetup, https://www.meetup.com/NeuroTechSF/
  • 3rdE 8:00 pm to 9:00pm Five Minutes of Fame a.k.a. 5MoF - Ten 5min talks in an hour, on any topic on the 3rd Thursday of the month.
  • TRASH NIGHT - Please take out all three large [trash] bins!! They are behind the front stairs.

Fridays[edit]

  • E 12:00 pm - 6:00 pm Open Open for FreeCodeCamp with Paul_H as host
  • * E 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Open Open for Chess Meetup!
  • * E 6:00 pm - 11:00 pm: Open We are open Friday evenings!

Saturdays[edit]

  • E 12:00 pm - 5:00 pm Noisebridge is open! Come hack and we may stay open later
  • August 14, 2:00 pm - 4:00 pm Art opening party for sailorhg's beautiful circuit hacking mural! There will be cookies shaped like electronic components! Mural is upstairs; eating and drinking on first floor outdoors only.
  • August 21, 8:00 pm - 10:00 pm HackComedy! Comedy night run by Victor! Donations welcome! Details to come.



Non-weekly[edit]

a casual monthly event dedicated to working on the space or relevant projects and building community. This is a great time to get feedback or help on any projects you have been considering that center around the space, culture, and infrastructure of Noisebridge. You can also help with existing projects and find out ways to get involved.

Project Updates[edit]

(Anyone doing interesting projects is welcome to chip in here.)

Consensus items[edit]

(Danny O'B up for secretary)

(Add any new items for consensus to the Current Consensus Items page.)

Discussion Items[edit]

Danny recuses himself from being the moderator for the meeting since he is the subject of it. Item, that Noisebridge make Danny O'Brien secretary. This was discussed last week. Some people expressed uneasiness that Danny has TOO MUCH POWER.

Crutcher, who is wearing a hilarious bright red tshirt that says BLOCK on it, remarks that Danny looks rather shifty.

What does the secretary do? They interface with companies for us. They see to it that notes are taken at meetings. They negotiate with insurance so Kelly doesn't have to, and track the membership stuff. Stuff that is necessary which isn't actually bookkeeping. Kelly just wants a helper to do a bunch of work, basically, and Danny has agreed to do it.

No one blocks.

Danny adds in that SETH HAS BEEN VERY AWESOME as secretary.

End of Meeting[edit]

  • PGP Key Signing could happen now, check the list to see who wants in on the action.
  • Put back the membership binder by the Shrine.
  • Save the meeting notes to the wiki.
  • Send a copy of the meeting notes to the discussion list.
  • Copy the Meeting Notes Template for next week's agenda and update the main wiki page's link to it.
  • Enjoy a cocktail with your fellow hacker or robot.