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=== Discussion Items ===
 
=== Discussion Items ===
  
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We talked about Jørgen's behavour.
  
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Jorgen says "I won't be drunk at Noisebridge again, not sleep here, and not visit Noisebridge between 8PM and 8AM except meetings, until further notice."
  
 
Rob cleaned up the ewaste room. Rob also got rid of scrap metal stuff. And there's a place to store scrap wood that we will never use.
 
Rob cleaned up the ewaste room. Rob also got rid of scrap metal stuff. And there's a place to store scrap wood that we will never use.
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Rachel says she can email Ben with the info of the dump.
 
Rachel says she can email Ben with the info of the dump.
  
We talked about Jorgen's behavior. A lot.
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Jay.
 
 
There aren't any detailed notes for this bit, because I asked about stopping taking them during the description of the incidents for privacy reasons, and didn't retake them up during the loong discussion afterwards.
 
 
 
I'm not sure I can summarize too precisely, so please feel free to add or correct.
 
 
 
There was a number of incidents discussed (Rachel, Ramon, Zach, and Erica all talked about incidents). Jorgen was very sorry. Many at the meeting felt that a simple commitment not to do them again would not be credible, primarily because there was a number of events, and they had all taken place while Jorgen was under the influence of alcohol. Some felt that Jorgen's many fine contributions to Noisebridge should be taken into account; others felt that good behaviour does not justify or trump bad. Rob and Zephyr were concerned that Jorgen was being highlighted for criticism and action when there were others who exhibited worse behavior.
 
 
 
Jake suggested that Jorgen take some time away from Noisebridge; Jorgen said he was planning to do so. Jorgen said that he would not sleep at Noisebridge, and not drink, but some repeated that this was felt to be something that right now he could not honestly commit to. Catherine proposed that Jorgen agree not to come to Noisebridge between 8PM and 8AM. It was felt that this would allow Jorgen to come to Noisebridge while he was sorting himself out, but also allow others to feel safer.
 
 
 
Danny noted that while this wasn't a consensus item, nor a rule that Noisebridge was making, members in the past had worried about unbounded agreements. He offered that we publicly revisit the matter in the near future (after Christmas).
 
 
 
We almost came to a conclusion, than Danny freaked that 8PM and 8AM was a weird and arbitrary provision and Leif co-freaked. Creative alternatives were sought. Everyone got a bit frazzled. In the end, Jorgen said "I won't be drunk at Noisebridge again, not sleep here, and not visit Noisebridge between 8PM and 8AM except meetings, until further notice."
 
  
 
=== End of Meeting ===
 
=== End of Meeting ===

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