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=== Discussion Items === Rayc transcludes his email into the discussion. Liz says we should talk to Stripes. Zephyr says we should have some hard evidence before we say someone is stealing. Rayc asks for more details. Zephyr says: he doesn't know stripes, he does know he was staying here. I'd like to think that the people here who stay for a long time, I don't know whether he was sleeping here, I like to think he was hacking. Rayc said that Stripes has been sleeping here, and we should do something about this. Zephyr talked to Stripes, and he showed me his artwork. I told Rayc that he was hacking on something. Then Rayc said that he thought Stripes is stealing. Zephyr had heard this before, and so Z + R discussed how to alleviate the problem, and Rayc wanted to set up a webcam, and Z tried to get a lock but then you know burritos, so instead we made a rubberband and string and wrapped it around on Sunday. This was the last I heard of it until I checked nb-drama and then I came back the next day. [Interjections of LULZ]. The rubberband-on-rails mechanism was still there on Monday, so either there was no actual theft, or someone ingeniously put it back. There seems to be some spurring to get people banned. I talked with Martin later and said that Stripes and Rayc had a personal difference, and that Rayc had done this before. So I started to think that maybe Stripes wasn't the person. Jake checked it on Monday and there was $19. Danny notes that it is really easy to collect money from the donation box, you just follow the rules on [[Donation Bin Record]]. Zephyr says he put on a non-tampering mechanism, and it wasn't tampered with. Josh says his experience was that Robert announced that there was money that had disappeared from the box, and someone in the space had taken it. Then Josh saw Stripes say that "you don't think it was me was it?", then Josh said he saw Rayc say "Yes I do think it was you". At that point Stripes said "please don't do this, it really hurts." He did not deny the accusation. Rob asked him to talk about it, but he was already down the stairs. Zephyr is worried about ostracising. Jake said that he wouldn't act like that if he was stealing laptops. Gnnr says that Rayc accused Gnnr of stealing laptops. Rayc and Gnnr subsequently solved this with moderation, and there is no ill will. Danny proposes that this be taken out of meeting to conflict resolution. Rayc says that's okay with him. Danny asks if Josh would like to get involved too, since he is also worried about this. Rayc says this is all actually a personal vendetta, for the record, and he is out to get him (Rayc was a bit sarcastic at this point). Josh is worried about people living at the space, hanging out at the fire escape, going on the roof. This is have the no rules vs obligations. Danny suggests that this is a wide discussion that could take place outside of Meeting. Zephyr says the fire escape thing, yep people should not be out there. But is it better to have people smoke outside the door. Is that the image we want to give to the nation's youth? I think that's the inferior solution. Josh thinks we should have people smoking 20 feet from the door, instead of in the fire escape. Liz says it's not legal to be on the fire escape. Liz suggests making more signs! Rayc think there's correlation between smoking on fire escape and drinking in the space. Cynthia is concerned that the ownership of the building may have a restriction. The meeting decides more signs.
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