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* Kitchen
* Kitchen
** Can we disallow storing all personal food from the kitchen?
** Can we disallow storing all personal food from the kitchen?
*** Pros:
** Pros:
**** Discourage habitation
*** Discourage habitation
**** Discourage GROSS NASTY ROTTEN FOOD (empirically, this happens)
*** Discourage GROSS NASTY ROTTEN FOOD (empirically, this happens)
*** Cons:
** Cons:
**** People do legitimately store personal food in the kitchen
*** People do legitimately store personal food in the kitchen


** Discussion:
** Discussion:
*** ????:  Consensus or not, this should be formally decided
*** Consensus or not, this should be formally decided
*** Tom
*** Tom
**** People have been keeping food here since the space first existed.  
**** People have been keeping food here since the space first existed.  
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**** Communication is good!
**** Communication is good!
**** Kelly: If you have labelled something for a specific purpose, you are excellence
**** Kelly: If you have labelled something for a specific purpose, you are excellence
*** Duncan:
***  
**** I agree with Leif & Kelly:  Label and don't be a dick. I've kept labelled "No Shr Pls" eggs & milk here to hack chocolate chip cookies
**** Duncan: 8 months ago I was homeless. I kept eggs and made cookies for people
**** Discovering no eggs at 10pm after buying a dozen @noon is frustrating.  The kitchen is here for hacking food & sharing results, NOT to feed the world.
**** It was one of the few places I could make fresh food
**** Not respecting "no share/pls ask first" & hogging limited is most unexcellent.  Some areas, like the counter, are community.
**** I shared freely and tried to use as little space as possible
**** Food is expensive for many, scarce for all when stores are closed.  This idea of "open sourcing" to everybody the perishable
**** Food is a basic necessity. Bags on the day-shelf are left unhacked, what about food
**** inputs for kitchen hacking feels like a poorly thought-through social engineering to an unstated bigger issue. 
**** Tom: I don't think NB is a place for medium-term food storage
**** Do we REALLY want NB to become known as that "place in the Mission to get free food to cook and eat"?
**** Food is a basic necessity and for many at all incomes, a very personal emotional thing. What's the REAL issue here?
**** Bags on the day-shelf are left unhacked, why should marked food be different?
*** Tom: I don't think NB is a place for medium-term food storage
*** Snail
*** Snail
**** We can't guarantee safety of the day-shelves; we don't like people keeping their goods there for extended periods of time.
**** We can't guarantee safety of the day-shelves; we don't like people keeping their goods there for extended periods of time.
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**** Food in the fridge for an hour has been yoinked
**** Food in the fridge for an hour has been yoinked
**** That is unexcellent, and has lead to conflict
**** That is unexcellent, and has lead to conflict
*** ??
**** Won't making NB fridges open access invite people to come in and shop
*** Kelly:
*** Kelly:
**** There has never been a policy on the fridge one way or the other
**** There has never been a policy on the fridge one way or the other
**** The signs previously existing were do-ocratic and can be changed
**** The signs existing are do-ocratic and can be changed
*** There are murmurs that the purviews of Excellence can keep this under control
*** There are murmurs that the purviews of Excellence can keep this under control
*** Q: What happens when Tastebridge wants to make more Kombucha
*** Q: What happens when Tastebridge wants to make more Kombucha
**** A: Kombucha is awesome
**** A: Kombucha is awesome
*** Kelly:
*** Kelly:
**** We may have at one time consensed on the idea that everything at NB is up for hacking except for the membership shelves.  
**** We may have at one time consensed on the idea that everything at NB is up for hacking except for the membership consensus. Does anyone remember?
**** Does anyone remember?
**** MCT: Agreed, and it is the informal consensus of NB that that is the case
**** MCT: Agreed, and it is the informal consensus of NB that that is the case


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