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== [[ Consensus Items History | Proposals from last week ]] == '''Torrie''': Items from last week. Item about revoking Tom's membership but he's not here. '''Monad''': Re-instate membership dues. Revert to minimum of $40, up to level you want. But members are required to pay member dues. None of the members I know that I've talked with thought it was a good idea to remove membership dues. Kevin, who proposed it, had second thoughts as well. Kevin wants it re-instated. '''Sven''': $40/month makes sense. Shows you're willing and able. Donation question: who gives you tax credit? '''Norman''': That would be our absent treasurer... '''Deja''': Agrees that there should be membership dues, in regards to upkeep and other necessary items. But do other volunteer efforts count toward the dues? '''Norman''': Membership dues exhibit committment. '''Corey''': I feel like we're backtracking from last week. We spent :30-1:00 discussing this last week. We're ignoring what we talked about last week. '''Jarrod''': I like what Norman said. Looking forward to $80 standard, $40 "starving". '''Sid''': Lost train of thought. '''Torrie''': What are feelings about paying by cash and then case-by-case afterward? '''Corey''': When I paid for dinner two weeks ago, there was no consensus that I would buy the dinner. If people are going to step up to contribute, there's no incentive to do things because it's hard to be reimbursed. '''Cynthia''': Noisebridge is non-profit, we have a committment to arts/technical. Not here to serve food to the public. If you choose to serve food, you chose to do that. You need to get consensus that you will be reimbursed. '''Kevin''': People give a lot to Noisebridge. I believe that membership means participation in decision-making process. Should be open to many who meet rigorous standards of consensus. Getting consensus to be a member should be the hard part. That is why I proposed to revoke the dues. I remain open to the idea of a time-based contribution, but how are we going to keep track of these circumstances? It's easy to see that someone contributed monetarily with paper trail, but how do you keep track of other things? '''Sven''': Pay it forward. Part of being excellent. '''Zack''': Issue is accountability. If we could track money, look at open-source financial statements, we'd be able to track activities, spending. Everyone has the skills to do that, there could be a technical solution. '''John''': If someone hypothetically is always cleaning up and happens to be a consensed member, one of the options is to ask others to chip in for their monthly dues. Should be encouraged. '''Ron''': The BACE timebank is where you do stuff and accrue hours. We might want to ask them about how they track stuff, create a proposal. You should be cleaning, donating stuff just because. '''Corey''': But we have a lot of low-income people here as well. '''Ron''': You don't have to be a member to participate. If you really feel passionate, you're a consensus-based community. Members can proxy-block for you. Nothing barring you. '''Corey''': But we need fresh blood. '''Ron''': But we need money. '''Torrie''': Why should people pay dues? What are benefits/detriments to donating? '''Sven''': When it comes to accountability, certain people just come here to sleep, just to eat, don't know who regulates that. Hurts feelings that people say they don't care about that. '''Torrie''': Regarding proposal... haven't heard anything against it. Does anyone want to block or have last minute concerns? '''Zack''': Age exception - teenagers. Can talk about this later. '''Ron''': Any objections from anyone else? '''Norman''': No. '''Torrie''': Any members blocking? '''John''': Question: How many consensed members do we have at this time? (4 to 5 people right now.) '''Ron''': That's the process. If they're not here, they're not blocking. '''Torrie''': Proposal has been consensed.
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