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These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 321st Meeting of Noisebridge]. Note-taker: Andy MC; Moderator: Naomi. * '''Jarrod is now a Member''' = Attendance = * Andy - likes working and supporting Noisebridge * Jay - tinker breaker and has truck * Chris - 1st meeting hacker * Matt - is #reboot ready * Steve - physician musician * Scott - 1st time here, local high school teacher (hardware prototype) * Carlos - I like noisebridge * Patrick - wants to make physical things * Jean-Jacques - professional handy man interested Solar Electric / printing * Dawn - Software Engineer, first time in the space. * Tom - first meeting, programmer in the past * Torrie - hack of all trades * Ron - front end web development first meeting * Bill - volunteered when moving into NB in 2009 * Kevin - painter of white walls — neural hacking wednesday night ! * Henner - software by day hacks hardware by night (access control) * Naomi - member since Aug 2009, trying to just work on ONE THING (the payphones + PBX) = Short announcements and events = * Naomi - The Great Reboot Party — this Friday, August 15th event! * Matt - we need help on the floors all this week. * Naomi - movie screening (Die [Gstettensaga]) was supposed to be July 26th — end of the month? * Naomi - [we are still fundraising!] Donations welcome. '''What is Consensus?''' Matt: consensus is alternative to majority votes. Point of consensus — not to change action but to give information. The member has a "last ditch" option to block — if they could "never live" with the consensus item. Close to "walking out the door". = [[ Membership Binder ]] = Daniel Lewis - week 1 / no sponsors / not present Tristan Mosley - week 3 / no sponsors / not present '''Jarrod Hicks''' - has 2 sponsors and 4 weeks * Q from matt “what do you define as excellent? “ * A "seeing the results of what I envisioned actually come to light” * Q from Torrie "why so long to become a member ?” * A mostly putting myself on the list because encouraged by other members. * Q from Naomi "what do you see as the proper way to express disagreement in a consensus proposal" * A "would take it up with the proposer directly” * Jay —> “he did not want to be a full fledged member for such a long time” * “he is really patient, especially with people who are not as emotionally intelligent” '''Consensus passed''', overwhelming support and gratitude from community members and non-members. = Financial Report = * Funds in bank: * Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):` Danny is busy filing our taxes (due August 15th — go John Shutt, acquire the Treasuring cooties!) = Consensus items = == [[ Consensus Items History | Proposals from last week ]] == === Reciprocal Banning with Sudo Room === Proposal: "If the Sudo Room hackerspace in Oakland bans a person from their space for reasons of safety, that person is immediately and automatically banned from Noisebridge." * Torrie described Sudo room situation about very bad safety - stalking situation * Naomi: "For reasons of safety"... must define * Matt : safety * Andy : what is "principled objection” vs “personality difference” * Kevin: sounds great bridge to build — improve both of our filters — proxy block from Cory * Matt : Feeling good about “reciprocal” … needs to be specific for what the banning is for * Naomi: reviewing sudo room's problems * Matt : get this defined internally? * Carl: I’m concerned about automatic banning. Possibly temporary banning, need some sort of review. * Torrie : Not a permanent final ban. The ban could be undone through a consensus item. * Matt : need to distinguish Sexual harassment / Stalking / Safety * Carl : procedurally, we can review the ban on a case by case basis * Matt : we need to understand their parameters for banning ( Sudo Room) * Torrie : sudo room “follows the rules until they dont make sense” .. sudo room is evolution * Matt : safe space security working group is encouraged to handle bans * Naomi: we probably need to develop this in more detail, I don't see a consensus forming here. * Matt : violence, sexual, harassment are obvious ban == [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] == Proposal: "If the Sudo Room hackerspace in Oakland bans a person from their space for reasons of safety, that person is immediately and automatically banned from Noisebridge." = Discussion Notes = == potential CCC members have 6 month waiting period == Andy and Matt: CCC disallows even the application for membership until 6 months have passed. Naomi: I'm for this. Members have the ability to block consensus which is really disruptive when abused. NB has done a poor job bringing people into a real Consensus process; misunderstanding the "block" is a huge part of that. Henner: "At some point when not enough people know each other, things can degenerate” Jay: Community trust . . . takes time. In support of 6 months (or more) to build trust. ?: Having lived in a coop … support the sentiment Jean Jacques: it takes time to form community ties, understanding (voiced support) Torri: Speaking about cultural preservation Carl: we have already 4 weeks, should it be longer? Naomi: is there a growing body of people who recognize this person after 6 months? (consensus) Torri: again voiced support — inverts the power dynamic in a good way. Matt: hand in application, disappear 6 months, then return? No. What does CCC expect from their members ? Matt: cost benefit analysis — is this person a net positive for the community ? Tom: some way to track contributions? (Certificates ?) Jay: (direct response) — you don't need to be asked. People wont even have to ask — it will be visible. Henner: 6 months … so many times after 3 weeks we review the member binder and that person isn’t here. Naomi: names in the binder should be familiar to everyone before the vote, people should actually know your name. Bill: pictures in the book? Torrie: (direct response) shouldn’t be necessary. Naomi: the “soft c” consensus sounds like we shouldn’t push people to become members right away. Patrick: what about associate members? Naomi: there's no clear community understanding of associate membership Torrie: the power vacuums might entice certain people … we can spot them by eager associate membership grabbing Andy: (direct response) like a spam detection system? (Torrie nods) Jade: nothing stopping non-members from donating Andy: (direct response) in support of Jade’s comment Carl: I like the idea of 3 months … people can come and demonstrate that they are a good fit for the community. It depends on the individual and how. Scott: Stay with 6 months. Why not a year? When you know people in the community, your voice is heard whether you vote or not. Kevin: 3 months? 6 months? X days. Starting when? Naomi: (direct response) when reading the binder, everyone should know who member applicants are. Kevin: (direct response) excellent as a concept. Torrie: its more of a cultural thing than a hard and fast rule. Scott: a lot of people should know that person. “Long enough” Matt: the only objection we need some sort of signal that someone actually wants membership. WIKI page is start date? === Scott from HackAway === Scott: possibility of high school classes next week? (HACKAWAY) middle school and high school students chrome books on linux bring equipment 15 week course one hour a week pay what you can model encourage all $$ incomes to participate Time: 4:00-5:30 No more than 12 students @matt: what ages, and who is responsible * (direct response) middle school ages 10-18 I (scott) would be responsible * insurance up to a million dollars * also has parent-signed waivers Tom: do they have to be enrolled in middle school? Scott: (direct response) age group 10-14, generally inclusive === Random Extra Items === Torri: cleaning the floor tomorrow night ! Help wanted. Jean Jacques: joe black Matt: (direct response) not for this meeting (other working group) Torri: 3D printer working … pieces and parts Naomi: (direct response) Purchased some 3D printer replacement parts [[Category:Meeting Notes]]
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