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= Attendance =
 
= Attendance =
* Mitch - A cofounder of Noisebridge! likes turning TVs off and helping people w/ hackerspaces
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* Mitch - A cofounder of Noisebridge! likes turning TVs off and helping peolpe w/ hackerspaces
 
* Jeremy - New here! Here to learn more about hardware hacking. Have a software background
 
* Jeremy - New here! Here to learn more about hardware hacking. Have a software background
 
* Torie - Invests heavily in equipment
 
* Torie - Invests heavily in equipment
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= What is this Noisebridge thing =
 
= What is this Noisebridge thing =
Naomi - Noisebridge is a hackerspace, makerspace, we like artists too. It's a place where you can make awesome things. The only rule is "Be excellent to one another" There are other sub rules but it's all about being excellent.
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Naomi - Noisebridge is a hackerspace, makerspace, we like artists too. It's a place where you can make awesome things. The only rule is "Be excellent to one another" There are other subrules but it's all about being excellent.
  
 
= Announcements and Events =
 
= Announcements and Events =
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Torrie - There have been rumours about the CNC mill not working. Not true! It works. It cuts keys and more. Working on cutting keys
 
Torrie - There have been rumours about the CNC mill not working. Not true! It works. It cuts keys and more. Working on cutting keys
  
Mitch - I have promises for a bunch of IGG rewards that people have volunteered to make. I made 4 LED cubes yesterday w/ animations. For the folks who contributed {256,512} USD they were promised a number of cool handmade things. We need 9 more items. Please contact me if you have some to donate.
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Mitch - I have promises for a bunch of IGG rewards that people have volunteed to make. I made 4 LED cubes yesterday w/ animations. For the folks who contributed {256,512} USD they were promised a number of cool handmade things. We need 9 more items. Please contact me if you have some to donate.
  
 
Claudia - I've seen people attempting to repair the sewing machines. They apparently need professional help. Discussion item.
 
Claudia - I've seen people attempting to repair the sewing machines. They apparently need professional help. Discussion item.
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= Membership =
 
= Membership =
  
Kevin - To become a member of noisebridge involves filling out an application in the binder. You need two member sponsors on your application. It's read aloud at 4 consecutive meetings after which your membership is discussed amongst the membership if you have the signatures. Practically speaking you should hang out here for a while before applying to get to know the community.
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Kevin - To become a member of noisebridge involves filling out an applicatio nin the binder. You need two member sponsors on your application. It's read aloud at 4 consecutive meetings after which your membership is discussed amongst the membership if you have the signatures. Practically speaking you should hang out here for a while before applying to get to know the community.
  
 
Mitch - You're a member only after you've paid your first month dues and have given your information to the secretary
 
Mitch - You're a member only after you've paid your first month dues and have given your information to the secretary
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Naomi - The other bureaucratic problem w/ partly engaged members is that membership grants you teh ability to vote and we'd like to have board members that accurately represent the views of the membership.
 
Naomi - The other bureaucratic problem w/ partly engaged members is that membership grants you teh ability to vote and we'd like to have board members that accurately represent the views of the membership.
  
Mitch - The board is the 5 member board which is required by CA law. They have no power whatsoever. They just volunteer and take on responsibility. It doesn't mean anything at all just shows a contribution of time for most people.
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Mitch - The board is the 5 member board which is required by CA law. They have no power whatsover. They just volunteer and take on responsibility. It doesn't mean anything at all just shows a contribution of time for most people.
  
 
Patt - It's then public record that you're on the board of NB.
 
Patt - It's then public record that you're on the board of NB.
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Claudia - I don't like the idea of non-members being here late at night.
 
Claudia - I don't like the idea of non-members being here late at night.
  
N0HAT - It was partly also an issue of there not being enough people to introduce people into the space. This is now taken up by the greeters
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N0HAT - It was partly also an issue of there not being enough people to introduce people into the space. This is now taken up by the greetres
  
 
Jade - I completely support scratching Associate Membership. It seems like an unnecessary tier to NB.
 
Jade - I completely support scratching Associate Membership. It seems like an unnecessary tier to NB.
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Rayc - I think Associate Membership was a community hack. I feel that it was a patch to different problems, an update to NB to things that should have been handled differently. There wasn't enough support at NB to support it the way it needed at the time.
 
Rayc - I think Associate Membership was a community hack. I feel that it was a patch to different problems, an update to NB to things that should have been handled differently. There wasn't enough support at NB to support it the way it needed at the time.
  
Henner - I think from what I understand. Only followed it. Associate Membership tried to add another layer because there weren't enough members here around the clock, so if we wanted that associate members would be the next level of trust for this. It was trying to fix a problem that NB had but not so much in the future which was that NB was too disconnected. Nobody knew each other to see at the door. One thing we started w/ the reboot was folks trying to get to know each other and build the community again. The greeter community is trying to solve the issue of introducing people, to increase the number of faces that people recognise. I think AM tried to patch a problem that we're solving w/ the reboot. We should not continue with it but acknowledge that community disconnected-ness was the problem we were trying to fix. Everyone should acknowledge that building community is work. Showing new people around, crashing conversations to try find out what people are working on.
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Henner - I think from what I understand. Only followed it. Associate Membership tried to add another layer because there weren't enough members here around the clock, so if we wanted that associate members would be the next level of trust for this. It was trying to fix a problem that NB had but not so much in the future which was that NB was too disconnected. Nobody knew each other to see at the door. One thing we started w/ the reboot was folks trying to get to know each other and build the community again. The greeter community is trying to solve the issue of introducing people, to increase the number of faces that people recognise. I think AM tried to patch a problem that we're solving w/ the reboot. We should not continue with it but acknowledge that community disconnected-ness was the problem we were trying to fix. Everyone should ackknowledge that building community is work. Showing new people around, crashing conversations to try find out what people are working on.
  
 
Mitch - Lets move on. Anyone in favour of keeping it ?
 
Mitch - Lets move on. Anyone in favour of keeping it ?
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Signal - Being excellent is excellent. Contributing doesn't give you power over others.
 
Signal - Being excellent is excellent. Contributing doesn't give you power over others.
  
Mitch - Everyone contributes in different ways. There's no need to compare contributions. If you're a member you have some rights given by the state of CA but otherwise nothing else.
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Mitch - Everyone contributes in different ways. There's no need to compare contributions. If you're a member you have some rights given by the state of CA but toherwise nothing else.
  
 
Rayc - Discussing it is a waste of energy
 
Rayc - Discussing it is a waste of energy
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Signal - I'm not a user of the Turing space just want more artists in the space. Joshua's here to help w/ this. We're considering soundproofing the Turing room to give awesome help to artists who helped w/ the reboot.
 
Signal - I'm not a user of the Turing space just want more artists in the space. Joshua's here to help w/ this. We're considering soundproofing the Turing room to give awesome help to artists who helped w/ the reboot.
  
Joshua - I can see online what people have done if we want to soundproof the actual room. In terms of gear I can help source it and teach people how to use it. Definitely 100% want to help.
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Joshua - I can see online what peolpe have done if we want to soundproof the actual room. In terms of gear I can help source it and teach people how to use it. Definitely 100% want to help.
  
 
Mitch - Shackspace has a soundproof room.
 
Mitch - Shackspace has a soundproof room.
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Signal - INFO: Joshua used to teach people how to use your computer as a recording studio. Software synths and MIDI controllers and the like. Also maybe teach some music theory. Jade is also musically talented. You guys should collaborate on the room. I want to help doocracratically help
 
Signal - INFO: Joshua used to teach people how to use your computer as a recording studio. Software synths and MIDI controllers and the like. Also maybe teach some music theory. Jade is also musically talented. You guys should collaborate on the room. I want to help doocracratically help
  
Mitch - We have a large discussion item RE treasurer stuff. Patt here is a non-profit finance expert. Helped w/ TVB-Gone enterprise. We don't have an active treasurer and it's painful. We want to automate it as much as possible. Patt has a bunch of ideas and would be willing to help us get it started.
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Mitch - We haev a large discussion item RE treasurer stuff. Patt here is a non-profit finance expert. Helped w/ TVB-Gone enterprise. We don't have an active treasurer and it's painful. We want to automate it as much as possible. Patt has a bunch of ideas and would be willing to help us get it started.
  
 
Patt - Needs assessment
 
Patt - Needs assessment
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Claudia - Sounds like something that'd be worth paying someone or a service for.
 
Claudia - Sounds like something that'd be worth paying someone or a service for.
  
Mitch - I brought up paying someone to do treasurer duties, they can delegate as much of it as possible. A bunch of folks have volunteered software and there's FOSS out there for it.
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Mitch - I brought up paying someone to do treasurer duties, they can delegate as much of it as possible. A bunch of folks have volunteered softare and there's FOSS out there for it.
  
 
Patt - The part I'm familiar with is the 501c3 specific stuff. The records requirements. There are 3 things. Maintaining bank balance, doing things so that we can report yearly to the government, thirdly keeping tabs of active memberships. It's not unlikely that we'd need 2 different software to do these things. My experience is in the non-profit software is that even expensive systems don't work well. The worst thing is state sensitive. Dates merging these two ledgers, cash and membership is tough.
 
Patt - The part I'm familiar with is the 501c3 specific stuff. The records requirements. There are 3 things. Maintaining bank balance, doing things so that we can report yearly to the government, thirdly keeping tabs of active memberships. It's not unlikely that we'd need 2 different software to do these things. My experience is in the non-profit software is that even expensive systems don't work well. The worst thing is state sensitive. Dates merging these two ledgers, cash and membership is tough.
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Mitch - We have paypal, bitcoin, cash and wells fargo
 
Mitch - We have paypal, bitcoin, cash and wells fargo
  
Signal - I think we're trying to solve 2 problems at the same time and we're disagreeing. One is getting up to date and compliant. Nobody knows better than Patt. Separately software automation of ongoing issues.
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Signal - I think we're trying to solve 2 problesm at the same time and we're disagreeing. One is getting up to date and compliant. Nobody knows better than Patt. Separately software automation of ongoing issues.
  
 
Patt - It's important to have records for membership for the government. If we get a process together when we're getting up to date that'll make life easier.
 
Patt - It's important to have records for membership for the government. If we get a process together when we're getting up to date that'll make life easier.

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