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== Discussion Items == If any important discussion happens, it should be happening after forward progress is made during consensus. * Scotty - lets talk about the safe space meta-discussion now. * David - I hope it doesn't close down more discussions than it opens up. Class is the number one issue for me right now. I'm dismayed how its looking more and more like a private space. Its been cordoned off for startups. I want it to feel like a hackerspace and not like a prissy joint on Valencia St. I don't know how to say it, but this is a hackerspace not a fab lab. * Razzi - I think it'd be great to be more specific about bad behavioral examples. * Tayopa - I was heartened that people were willing to speak up. It could've been a thing that made people feel uncomfortable enough that it'll lead to silence. * Victoria - As a hypothetical, someone comes to you and says they're uncomfortable because someone is hitting on them. What would you do? * Richard - Ask them to tell them to stop? * Maybe the person doing it isn't intentionally trying to make someone uncomfortable. * Tayopa - People have different levels of comfort. If someone is complained over and over again by multiple people, then even if it isn't incredibly clear and black/white, we have a mechanism in place to deal with that via #no-fly-list. * David - On one level, its kinda about manners. You can't really legislate against bad manners. If someone persists with bad behavior then it crosses a line. Zizek Slavoj wrote and produced videos about this. He's a critic of attempts to... I don't want to get into it I'd rather him explain it himself. Nobody in their right mind would mask attempts to minimize sexual harassment. * Scotty - I want to circle back to specifics about what we want to talk about next week. I would propose we do it again next week. * Victoria - Maybe we can include some text from the anti-harassment policy? * Scotty - Last week we talked extensively and decided we didn't want people to read it verbaim. The current way leads to a more living discussion about what it means to be a safe space. * Taypoa - Lets try and see what happens? * In Korea, in our school, we have separate campuses for liberal arts and natural sciences. They're pretty far apart. What would help the students communicate and collaborate in different fields of study. * Audrey - Collaboration: In korea, we have all these spaces b/c he gov't pays ofr everyehting. But nobody is there using it because it isn't their dream. Fields of different majors should have to work together and collaborate. * JJ - I think its an architectural dilemma. If there are resources that are used by both parties and they are brought together in one location, that can cause polenation between majors. Might be as simple as lunch benches. * David - Make it very weird and very controversial. Have unusual things that inherently are cross-disciplinary, unusual, biological, strange. The more strange the better. More controversial the better. Get press, lots of attention, circulate on social media. Treat it like a big publicity thing. Half of what Mitch does is promote Noisebridge. He is a PR guy for an idea: you can do anything with old stuff and make it new again as long as its weird. * Tayopa - Projects that were very fun, but not geared for a technical background. Hackathons are very useful too! Teams where I didn't have advanced technical skills but could still contribute. People are coming from different majors and working together on one project to compete against each other. That was a lot of fun. * Richard - The interest should come from the members, the groups, and not the government that tells them what to be interested in. Let them come together and give them the resources to do what they want. * Zephyr - Lets talk about the openness of Slack * Zephyr - Tony LaTigre * Scotty - David, I'm not sure what you mean with your concerns about class. * David - I long for a time when noisebridge felt more inclusive. More ad-hoc, more experimental, more do-it-yourself. A place where you could walk in and do something. Not as concerned with precision and efficiency. I feel some of this has gotten in the way of Noisebridge's initial aims and objectives, which is to provide a space for people to tinker with. * Scotty - Are there specific parts you're interested in? * David - Parts to rummage through, computers to tinker with, you know. Its not a hospital. A hackerspace shouldn't be a clinical like that. There's been a general cleaning up of the space where hacking in the original sense of the term can't take place in quite the same way. I like noisebridge and I care about it very much and I don't feel I should take part in meetings if I can't speak my mind. There certainly has been a sense that the space has gotten more cleaned up and more corporate. A lot less like truly hackerish. [[Category:Meeting Notes]]
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