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= Instructions =
= Introductions =
 
Mitch - we stay alive by being cool. I travel around the world doing
 
Cory - I've been around tech places and have taught classes and teach kids and love STEAM


Congratulations and/or condolences! You're reading this because you're participating in a meeting of Noisebridge!
Shane - 2nd time here, I'm an engineer and I made a cnc machine once


Meetings should be limited to an hour when possible. Shorter is fine, but avoid rushing.
Chris - biochem no computers *eyes glaze over*


You should read this instructional section thoroughly, and treat them as a guideline for how to host a meeting of Noisebridge. There are three ingredients to an [[Excellent]] meeting: A number of note takers, some facilitators, and participants.
patrick - playz with toys and count NB bucks


Meetings are just one of the tools used at Noisebridge to create net forward progress on whatever it is we're all trying to do. Meetings aren't the only way to make decisions or have discussions, and in fact its usually a much better idea to talk about things outside the meeting before dragging the entire community kicking and screaming into it.
Morris - xchange student from sweeden. it is my first time here


== Note Takers ==
Trent - python & web dev & does consulting with you and your company and teaches python and learning a lot of C
# Confirm last meeting was saved
# Take new notes
# Save and share the notes at the end of the meeting (instructions at the bottom).


== Facilitators ==
Darryl - I teach laser cutting. I do some robotics and AI


There are generally two kinds of facilitator roles at a Noisebridge meeting:
Jarrod - I'm a designer and make things


* Stack taker - Useful when a lot of folks want to hop on the discussion stack. This gives everyone a turn to have their feelings heard. Usually only works when there is exactly one stack taker.
John - I have a beard and do taxes
* Moderators - Keeps the meeting moving and prevents everyone from wasting too much time on one subject. Anyone is free to pick up moderation and move the meeting along.


In general, moderators should:
Alex - gamebridge whatup on tuesdays and we want to make a VR game thing at makerfare
* Understand the structure of Noisebridge [[consensus|decision-making]]
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak.
* Speak only minimally yourself.
* Keep the meeting moving, and avoid getting bogged down.
* Identify discussion items, arrange times limits for talking about each item.
* Identify and summarize consensus, suggest things that need to be done.
* '''Get the [[membership binder]] and ensure that it is returned safely.'''


== Participants ==
Quintessa - I don't come here but once a week and want to make a recording studio. I brought a bunch of foam. WHERE IS LEE


Everyone at a Noisebridge meeting who has consented to participating in one is a participant!
Juan - I 3D print and security and in between projects


* Say your name before you talk.
Jeremey - software getting more #AI and got doored by a car
* Remain on-topic, and speak as concisely as possible.
* Assist the note-taker with any links or corrections that are needed.
* Remain respectful of other participants, their time, and the consensus and moderation process.


Steve - theoretical physics and AI and C++. Eat the computers


DELETE EVERYTHING ABOVE THIS LINE WHEN YOU POST THE MEETING MINUTES KTHX!!!
BLake - yours truly
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These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge]. Date: FIXME THE DATE HERE Note-taker: FIXME YOUR NAME HERE; Moderators: FIXME THEIR NAME HERE.
Jervon - accountant [CPA] by day data by night, intrested in organizing data [Financial Analysis and Data Manipiulation]
* '''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''


== Meeting Summary ==
Ryan - Been coming round for two years every tuesday and been taking the gamebridge class w Alex and workin on a rubric for the laser cutting class
FIXME FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New members:
* New philanthropists:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:


= Introductions =
Tim - 1st time here. I'm from pheonix a hackerspace there. Turns math IRL
 
Chickenfoot- webdeveloper wants to make games skynet
 
Osmon - been in SF fer two weeks I cofounded a makerspace in Istanbul getting to know the lovely place


* '''Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to explain''' [[Noisebridge_Vision|what Noisebridge is about]]:
<blockquote>Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."</blockquote>
* Introduce any experimental or unusual moderation techniques that may be using during the meeting like: direct responses, limited speaking time, orderless stack, &c.
* Round of introductions (remember, announcements come later):
** What's your name
** What do you do
** What do you maintain at Noisebridge?
** if you are new: how did you hear about Noisebridge?


= Short announcements and events =
= Short announcements and events =
* Cool new projects? Something you'd like people to know? Say now, but keep it short! One or two sentences please!
 
* Any happenings at the space of which members should be made aware.
Alex - We're buliding a securable cart as a VR kiosk or other interactive art. Purfect for makerfaire. Talk to us in the back!
* Don't hog everyone's time since we all just want to hack!
 
Trent - we have a welder
 
Ryan - I'm looking to get computer hardware to build the VR kiosk and more complex stuff
 
Cory - I am starting a company. Like Noisebridge on wheels. A movable fablab. If you're interested come talk to me. Mobile makerspaces, centrally organized non-profit to vet the fleet of magic mobile fablabs.
 
Alex - I have a Uhaul truck too. and we can both do stuff.
 
Mitch - lets talk about this more late
 
Chris - we have a ember DLP printer in the back. But running it is complex. Talk to me if you wanna get talk I'll have classes.
 
Darryl - This sunday is the 3rd meeting of the SF robots maker club 1pm
 
Trent - Intermediate Python class starts a new rotation in 13 days.
 
Jarrod - our app for makerfaire was accepted. We have a 10'x20' space which is big lets fill it with toatally awesome radically stuff from noisebridge. Please contact me. hicksu@gmail.com maker faire is may 18-21
 
Mitch - Dorkbot will be here Wednesday March 1st. Dorkbot is cool and social and will be a fun gathering with 3 presentations. The intersection of art and tech. Peeps doing interesting things with art and technology. Also robot arms. And we need volunteers. Volunteers plz comeby 5:30 and 6:30 wednesday march 1st
 


= Safe Space =
= Safe Space =


'''Note:''' This section is experimental. We discussed it at [[Meeting_Notes_2016_06_28]]. We're going to try it for the next meeting, and see how it goes, and then discuss in the discussion section how it went, and how we'd like to tweak it.
Darryl - NB tries to be inclusive and welcoming to people. Esp marginalized people. It means you must take other people into consideration and you must be excellent and respect them.


Noisebridge is a safe space. '''Invite a volunteer to describe''' what that means.
Blake - Don't harass people. And do be excellent.


Some specific points you might prompt the group to touch on, if it doesn't happen naturally:
= Participation =
* What to do if you feel uncomfortable.
* Noisebridge strives to be radically inclusive. What does that mean?
* Noisebridge has an antiharassment policy. What does that mean?


= Participation =
Patrick - show up and do cool stuff.
 
Mitch - ring the doorbell and someone will let you in. You can eventually get access from a member and maybe one day become a member.


Invite a knowledgable volunteer to describe who can participate at Noisebridge, including:
* Describe how to get an rfid key for the door system
* Describe how to get access to slack


= [[Philanthropist|Philanthropists]]=
= [[Philanthropist|Philanthropists]]=
* '''Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to describe''' [[Philanthropist/Pledge|Philantropy]], and the application process.
 
* Read off any names from the binder for the past month. Any applicants must have their sponsor present to vouch for them.
Mitch - Keep Space Safe and Cool and 24/7 opening
* If there are no objections, they're a philanthropist! Their pledge should be handed over to the [[Secretary]] posthaste, after which their token will be updated to give them the 24/7 access they've earned(?)
 
Membership Binder - Fill out form for Links, and at least one member vouch for you.
 
James is up for Philanthropist
 
Trent - James been around for long time, had bad interactions with James though they worked through them, but he thinks James has been great lately.
 
Mitch- Once James, has made monthly arrangements, he will Need to talk with john to get added to the monthy payment


= [[ Membership Binder ]] =
= [[ Membership Binder ]] =


* '''Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to describe''' [[membership]], and the application process.
<blockquote>Being a member of Noisebridge is not like being a member of a gym or your local chess club. Anyone can come to Noisebridge to hack and learn: you don't need to be a member for that. At Noisebridge, membership is something different: it means taking responsibility and committing to help to maintain, improve, and govern Noisebridge. As a member of Noisebridge, you don't just come here to hack and learn, you actively work to improve what you see around you, help to deal with problems, and make this community and space better than it is today.</blockquote>
<blockquote>Being a member of Noisebridge is not like being a member of a gym or your local chess club. Anyone can come to Noisebridge to hack and learn: you don't need to be a member for that. At Noisebridge, membership is something different: it means taking responsibility and committing to help to maintain, improve, and govern Noisebridge. As a member of Noisebridge, you don't just come here to hack and learn, you actively work to improve what you see around you, help to deal with problems, and make this community and space better than it is today.</blockquote>
* Read off any names from the binder for the past month. Mark down a check or other indicator on every open application to keep track of how many weeks they've been read out.
* Anyone eligible to join this week should
** introduce themselves,
** answer any questions members may have for them, then
** leave the area in search of gifts (traditionally beer and a lime, or cookies) for the rest of the group.
* The rest of the meeting should reach consensus on whether they may join.
* Remember to applaud new members when they return.


Jarrod - Membership gives you consenship, keep noisebrige intresting and funtioning , and sort through the diffuclut sitution at noisbrige.
members become members through consensus at meetings, it allows you access to voting on big changes at noisebridge
To become member have to send application to binder and requires 2 members and members will decide if you are a goood with. You have to wait 4 meetings before final consensus to allow them to be a member
Membership gives you a bunch of reposiblilty but
Mila and Lessie in binder, possile membership at next meeting
Jarrod - Membership is not a membership Lite posision, hacker but not responible for noisebrige as members are responsibles. Also,
Mitch - You do not need to be a member, to do anything at noisebridge, and the only thing it let you get invovle in consenuship process.


= Financial Report =
= Financial Report =
* Funds in bank:
 
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
* Funds in bank:about 85,787.45 in bank
 
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary): 30000ish
 
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials
about 8000 in equiptment fund (matching up to 2500).
Funds maybe use for books,and maybe be an discussion on around makeing the equipment fund match
Trent organize the library, and "no strach press" stated to mitch that they will give any books we want to noisebridge
Noise Tour - is fund to run noisbridge exe. node and let people .
Mitch - Want to raise money to buy building, and not be at the demand of SF rent prices
Noisebridge Group how to make $1M to noisebridge


= Consensus =
= Consensus =


* '''invite a knowledgeable volunteer to give '''[[Consensus Process|a brief primer on consensus process]]
Patrict - how do you run anarchist hacker space, consensus is oppoist of majority run, therer are two formsand little C - getting someone opiion before you destroy a wall [common courticy] - floating feedback to see if people is ok with it. ex. Library created
* It is important that everyone in attendance understands at least:
 
** Blocking with verbalized principled objections.
Big C consensus - Has something that has an effect on everyone in the community - Has to be accpected by everyone. If you have objects, you have have to presents counterprosal to what the other person what to happen. Also, it ok, if nothing happen.
** Why we use consensus over other approaches to decision making.
 
** How consensus isn't a legislative process
Introduction of philanthopy was a Big C consensus,
** Why consensus isn't applicable to some things like conflict resolution, resolution of time sinks, and the like.
 
how it works at first meeting you have your proposal, and the next 2 weeks there is a debate on your proposal. and the thrid week is the member vote yes or no. But if does not passed does not mean, it killed forever but it just did not fit noisebridge at this point and time. And you need everyone to agree.
 
Big C consenus, Last June was the last Big C consensus item.
 
Concept of Block, nonuseful tool, thermal nuclar option of consensus, "You as a Member will Walk away from Noisebridge, if something passed"; should only be use as the ultimate pressure. Only members can block
 
 
 
Littel C consensus is just Do-Ocaracy and be excellent to each other.
Any member, can block someone for membership.
 
 


== [[ Consensus Items History | Proposals from last week ]] ==
== [[ Consensus Items History | Proposals from last week ]] ==
''(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''
''(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''
NOPE


== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ==
== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ==
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''


NOPE


= Discussion =
= Discussion =


Longer discussion items belong here. This is the last part of the meeting so that people can break off and continue their discussion afterwards.
Corey- Wants Noisebridge being fiscal sponsor of nonprofit. Passion to educate, and has been teichal pro, sitting on open soucer project and operationg with your peers. Shop like Techshop, Inv similar to noisebridge. You see the tool, and you help out to brige up the tide to help the boat.
 
Makerspaces teaching others what they know, over the last 8 years Stem - Curisority Hack/Hacker Scout - want to brige this foward, but their are centralize location but can not go to specific location that needed. But their is a lot of great moblie hacker spaces, but he want people to be engage as creators, as art in school. But there is vaccum on how to be creative in ideals. He wants to creat non-profit and streem cravain. School can go to place who have a serice provider, and services providers has access to school through vetting. But he want to be an vanguard, want at curitsity Hack that went belly up. Were going to be their fiscal sponsor, and noisebridge great match. Alex was saying, by going to schools with a project, but led people to noisebridge on Sun. and Sat. Has concerns about running a hackerspace, and want to benfit for hacker expertises. Grant Repriciant. Want to learn how to run a nonprofit and how to stewart other non profits to push more hackerspace.
 
== Discussion Items ==


If any important discussion happens, it should be happening after forward progress is made during consensus.
Fiscal Sponsor - "Fiscal Legal and Financial Libility" - Noisebridge have to understand, how will it work if people are hired.
Corey - Stated that he would use his company to hire people, which will be spreate from the grant.  


= End of Meeting =
Mitch- Working on it for a consensus items, stated that Corey should update wiki page.


# Return the [[membership binder]] to its rightful location.
Shop class has help more, than college experience due to hands on experience, to learn. Reminders of Book mobile.
# Discuss any items for which there was not time during the meeting.
# Enjoy the company of your fellow hacker, robot, or robothacker.


== Note taker posts the notes ==
Darrel - We need to Ban "Ben Bealsey", due to him sexually assulting a victim in our coummunity.
# Clean and tidy the meeting notes including removing all these really verbose instructions.
# Fill out the short summary at the top listing just announcements, consensus items, discussion topics, and names of new members and philanthropists.
# Copy paste the notes to the [http://www.noisebridge.net//Next_meeting next meeting] page. (They will become [[Last meeting]] at midnight.)
# Email the meeting summary to [mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net?subject=MeetingNotes Noisebridge Discuss] and [mailto:noisebridge-announce@lists.noisebridge.net?subject=MeetingNotes Noisebridge Announce] lists.
# CC on the email treasurer@noisebridge.net and secretary@noisebridge.net if there are new members and philanthropists.
# Edit the [[Current_Consensus_Items|Current Consensus Items]] if anything is proposed for consensus next week.
# Edit the [[Consensus_Items_History|Consensus Items History]] if anything was reached consensus or failed to reach consensus this week.


== Fun things to do after ==
Mitch - Wan is organizing pallet for energy drinks, but if enough people pleage to buy energy drinks noisebridge will buy drinks
* Reprise of the [[Hackernationale]]. [This is anarchy - we do what the wiki says!]
* [[PGP|PGP Key Signing]] could happen now (if it doesn't happen '''before''' any given Meeting).  Ask others around the space or check the [[PGP|list]] to see who wants in on the action.


March 18, 2017 - Totally newbie website - sorters and electornics, look up on wiki and need volunteers


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Introductions[edit]

Mitch - we stay alive by being cool. I travel around the world doing

Cory - I've been around tech places and have taught classes and teach kids and love STEAM

Shane - 2nd time here, I'm an engineer and I made a cnc machine once

Chris - biochem no computers *eyes glaze over*

patrick - playz with toys and count NB bucks

Morris - xchange student from sweeden. it is my first time here

Trent - python & web dev & does consulting with you and your company and teaches python and learning a lot of C

Darryl - I teach laser cutting. I do some robotics and AI

Jarrod - I'm a designer and make things

John - I have a beard and do taxes

Alex - gamebridge whatup on tuesdays and we want to make a VR game thing at makerfare

Quintessa - I don't come here but once a week and want to make a recording studio. I brought a bunch of foam. WHERE IS LEE

Juan - I 3D print and security and in between projects

Jeremey - software getting more #AI and got doored by a car

Steve - theoretical physics and AI and C++. Eat the computers

BLake - yours truly

Jervon - accountant [CPA] by day data by night, intrested in organizing data [Financial Analysis and Data Manipiulation]

Ryan - Been coming round for two years every tuesday and been taking the gamebridge class w Alex and workin on a rubric for the laser cutting class

Tim - 1st time here. I'm from pheonix a hackerspace there. Turns math IRL

Chickenfoot- webdeveloper wants to make games skynet

Osmon - been in SF fer two weeks I cofounded a makerspace in Istanbul getting to know the lovely place


Short announcements and events[edit]

Alex - We're buliding a securable cart as a VR kiosk or other interactive art. Purfect for makerfaire. Talk to us in the back!

Trent - we have a welder

Ryan - I'm looking to get computer hardware to build the VR kiosk and more complex stuff

Cory - I am starting a company. Like Noisebridge on wheels. A movable fablab. If you're interested come talk to me. Mobile makerspaces, centrally organized non-profit to vet the fleet of magic mobile fablabs.

Alex - I have a Uhaul truck too. and we can both do stuff.

Mitch - lets talk about this more late

Chris - we have a ember DLP printer in the back. But running it is complex. Talk to me if you wanna get talk I'll have classes.

Darryl - This sunday is the 3rd meeting of the SF robots maker club 1pm

Trent - Intermediate Python class starts a new rotation in 13 days.

Jarrod - our app for makerfaire was accepted. We have a 10'x20' space which is big lets fill it with toatally awesome radically stuff from noisebridge. Please contact me. hicksu@gmail.com maker faire is may 18-21

Mitch - Dorkbot will be here Wednesday March 1st. Dorkbot is cool and social and will be a fun gathering with 3 presentations. The intersection of art and tech. Peeps doing interesting things with art and technology. Also robot arms. And we need volunteers. Volunteers plz comeby 5:30 and 6:30 wednesday march 1st


Safe Space[edit]

Darryl - NB tries to be inclusive and welcoming to people. Esp marginalized people. It means you must take other people into consideration and you must be excellent and respect them.

Blake - Don't harass people. And do be excellent.

Participation[edit]

Patrick - show up and do cool stuff.

Mitch - ring the doorbell and someone will let you in. You can eventually get access from a member and maybe one day become a member.


Philanthropists[edit]

Mitch - Keep Space Safe and Cool and 24/7 opening

Membership Binder - Fill out form for Links, and at least one member vouch for you.

James is up for Philanthropist

Trent - James been around for long time, had bad interactions with James though they worked through them, but he thinks James has been great lately.

Mitch- Once James, has made monthly arrangements, he will Need to talk with john to get added to the monthy payment

Membership Binder [edit]

Being a member of Noisebridge is not like being a member of a gym or your local chess club. Anyone can come to Noisebridge to hack and learn: you don't need to be a member for that. At Noisebridge, membership is something different: it means taking responsibility and committing to help to maintain, improve, and govern Noisebridge. As a member of Noisebridge, you don't just come here to hack and learn, you actively work to improve what you see around you, help to deal with problems, and make this community and space better than it is today.


Jarrod - Membership gives you consenship, keep noisebrige intresting and funtioning , and sort through the diffuclut sitution at noisbrige. members become members through consensus at meetings, it allows you access to voting on big changes at noisebridge

To become member have to send application to binder and requires 2 members and members will decide if you are a goood with. You have to wait 4 meetings before final consensus to allow them to be a member

Membership gives you a bunch of reposiblilty but

Mila and Lessie in binder, possile membership at next meeting

Jarrod - Membership is not a membership Lite posision, hacker but not responible for noisebrige as members are responsibles. Also,

Mitch - You do not need to be a member, to do anything at noisebridge, and the only thing it let you get invovle in consenuship process.

Financial Report[edit]

  • Funds in bank:about 85,787.45 in bank
  • Any other details by those participating in handling our financials

about 8000 in equiptment fund (matching up to 2500).

Funds maybe use for books,and maybe be an discussion on around makeing the equipment fund match

Trent organize the library, and "no strach press" stated to mitch that they will give any books we want to noisebridge

Noise Tour - is fund to run noisbridge exe. node and let people .

Mitch - Want to raise money to buy building, and not be at the demand of SF rent prices

Noisebridge Group how to make $1M to noisebridge

Consensus[edit]

Patrict - how do you run anarchist hacker space, consensus is oppoist of majority run, therer are two formsand little C - getting someone opiion before you destroy a wall [common courticy] - floating feedback to see if people is ok with it. ex. Library created

Big C consensus - Has something that has an effect on everyone in the community - Has to be accpected by everyone. If you have objects, you have have to presents counterprosal to what the other person what to happen. Also, it ok, if nothing happen.

Introduction of philanthopy was a Big C consensus,

how it works at first meeting you have your proposal, and the next 2 weeks there is a debate on your proposal. and the thrid week is the member vote yes or no. But if does not passed does not mean, it killed forever but it just did not fit noisebridge at this point and time. And you need everyone to agree.

Big C consenus, Last June was the last Big C consensus item.

Concept of Block, nonuseful tool, thermal nuclar option of consensus, "You as a Member will Walk away from Noisebridge, if something passed"; should only be use as the ultimate pressure. Only members can block


Littel C consensus is just Do-Ocaracy and be excellent to each other. Any member, can block someone for membership.


Proposals from last week [edit]

(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the Consensus Items History page.)

NOPE

Proposals for next week [edit]

NOPE

Discussion[edit]

Corey- Wants Noisebridge being fiscal sponsor of nonprofit. Passion to educate, and has been teichal pro, sitting on open soucer project and operationg with your peers. Shop like Techshop, Inv similar to noisebridge. You see the tool, and you help out to brige up the tide to help the boat. Makerspaces teaching others what they know, over the last 8 years Stem - Curisority Hack/Hacker Scout - want to brige this foward, but their are centralize location but can not go to specific location that needed. But their is a lot of great moblie hacker spaces, but he want people to be engage as creators, as art in school. But there is vaccum on how to be creative in ideals. He wants to creat non-profit and streem cravain. School can go to place who have a serice provider, and services providers has access to school through vetting. But he want to be an vanguard, want at curitsity Hack that went belly up. Were going to be their fiscal sponsor, and noisebridge great match. Alex was saying, by going to schools with a project, but led people to noisebridge on Sun. and Sat. Has concerns about running a hackerspace, and want to benfit for hacker expertises. Grant Repriciant. Want to learn how to run a nonprofit and how to stewart other non profits to push more hackerspace.

Fiscal Sponsor - "Fiscal Legal and Financial Libility" - Noisebridge have to understand, how will it work if people are hired. Corey - Stated that he would use his company to hire people, which will be spreate from the grant.

Mitch- Working on it for a consensus items, stated that Corey should update wiki page.

Shop class has help more, than college experience due to hands on experience, to learn. Reminders of Book mobile.

Darrel - We need to Ban "Ben Bealsey", due to him sexually assulting a victim in our coummunity.

Mitch - Wan is organizing pallet for energy drinks, but if enough people pleage to buy energy drinks noisebridge will buy drinks

March 18, 2017 - Totally newbie website - sorters and electornics, look up on wiki and need volunteers

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