Meeting Notes 2018 07 24
Noisebridge meeting 2018-07-24
These are the notes from the The 500th Meeting of Noisebridge.
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Moderator: steffanie
Note taker(s): rebecca
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Introductions (name, pronouns, deets)[edit | edit source]
steffanie - she/her - i like to fabricate
sid - he/him - heard about nb because of steffanie, web dev
christine - she/her - middleschool teacher, long time fan of nb, brought by corey
corey - he/him - build robots and teach ppl to do so
matt - he/him - unity + C#
jarrod - he/him or they/them - woodworking, studying for architecture exam and watching lots of Doctor Who
nick - he/him - guy who does stuff w/ electronics some times
john - he/him - has 10k books hes working on selling, does blockchain stuff, *fireenginenoise*
charlie - he/him - i work on electronics projects, and making boxes for mostly done electronics projects but don't ask me about the boxes
jeremy - he/him or they/them - also tryna make boxes outta cardboard, plz ask me, been watching er season 4, into intelligent systems, learning onshape
rebecca - she/her - AI, type theory, FP, teach laser
matt - he/him - electronics, programming, rouse the rabble, taught an electronics class and make sure ppl know how to solder well
micah - they/them - was a garden teach for a while, getting involved in occupyice, making new connections
ben - he/him - organizes a wikimedia wikipedia group in SF, random coding stuff
david - he/him - screen printing, made a beehive from a captured bee swarm
r - they/them - i'm excite [very excite I am] about this new 2d printer but not sure if we're gonna get it to work
james - he/him - technical writer, scifi writer, makes electronica, photographs
cain - any - music/NAW
tonzi - they/them - addicted to making music videos; i make music and then collab w/ artists to make vids
announcements[edit | edit source]
Jarrod - august 4+5 cleaning day! please come help clean! task list on the wiki; we'll clean, purge, lots of reclaiming of Do Not Hack items of more than 1 months; project shelves 2 months or more. if you don't want your stuff lost, come and claim them!
Jeremy - i put up some signage in the laser cutter room wrt not knowing how to use it or know how to get trained. if someone asks tell them to get a request put into the #laser channel on slack w/ name email and evailability
nickp - Circuit Hacking Mondays needs more teachers! please volunteer! get in touch with me (nickp) or J
john - if you have an idea for some non-consumable equipment, we have an equipment fund! raise half the money, NB will pay for the other half! buy it, then get #finange-wg to reimburse. up to a $5000 piece of equipment (so get reimbursed up to 2500 without consensus)
david - flammable stuff gets left around a whole bunch esp. by dangerous hot work tools like the angle grinder and this is dangerous, please put stuff away in the flammables cabinet, even if you didn't take it out!
micah - abolishICE potluck at the 16th st BART, July 28th 12pm
safe space[edit | edit source]
charlie - everyone should be comfortable working on their stuff at noisebridge, we have an anti-harassment policy that ppl should read; if someone asks you to stop doing something in your interactions w/ them its good to do that/ more explicit description of some interpretations of excellence. also we have #space-guardians on slack you can raise issues in
jeremy - also if you're not in slack there's pegasus.noisebridge.net/safespace where you can make anonymous requests to the space guardians channel
steffanie - we also strive to be radically inclusive!
participation[edit | edit source]
jarrod - anyone is welcome to come and ring the doorbell and hopefully someone will be here and let you in during the open hours of 11am to 10pm. you're welcome to come and using the space and the tools etc. you have the same power to use the space and make changes as anyone else, so feel free to doocractically modify the space as necessary! ive you're coming to NB often, you can find a member of the space you can request an rfid access token from a member for 30 days that lets you get in w/o having to ring the bell. beyond that we have philanthropists who pay for 24hour access and are willing to close down the space when they leave and know how to do that. and finally we have members, who are a group of people who publicly make it their responsibility to keep noisebridge operational. but noisebridge is doocratic, you participate by doing! if you're unsure, ask around!
christine - age cut off?
beka - i think none but dont expect it to be kid safe??
charlie - keep in mind we're not a daycare so keep in mind safety stuff, etc.
corey - it really depends on the maturity level of the person in question
john - series of workshops w/ much younger kids here w/ adults supervising (spykids) and it worked really well
Philanthropy[edit | edit source]
charlie - basically someone who has interested in having 24h access, preferably can donate money on a regular basis (but talk to treasurer); knows how to open and close the safe safely. its a privilege, you're not granted it *because* you pay. being a philanthropist doesnt get you more rights or control than anyone else.
beka -
rando - apply earlier not later! its easy to become one so dont worry!
ben - fees?
john - suggested $80/month but this isnt a requirement! whatever is reasonable for you! it's really ok
Tonzi (sponsored by @gaardn), is a philanthropist!
Membership[edit | edit source]
beka -
No applications.
Moneys[edit | edit source]
Noisebridge has $93,277.96 in the bank. Running financial reports at noisebridge.net/finances. Please spend money from the equipment fund! It provides matching grants for equipment that lives at Noisebridge, if you raise half of the money. We want a high-yield savings account and a credit card.
Consensus[edit | edit source]
charlie - consensus is how we make decisions. some variations: little-c consensus, if you're doing something that you're not sure if it's a good idea that others might object to, just go around and talk to people to see what they think, and consider that before making the change to prevent unintended consequences. other variant: Big-C Consensus, for big things that affect Noisebridge the Org that really can't be done do-ocratically and need the whole community to participate in the conversation around.
beka -
Beka's consensus item (week 1)
Jarrod - seems doocratic??
Beka - financial stuff, so probably should be consensus
Jarrod - will we be using it?
John - yeah we can use it for a bunch of expenses that we're current having, and can pay off very quickly
Corey - have we talked to other non-profits about this? or ones that own property?
John - No
Corey - might want to see what others have done so we can have max info, eg SFMade
jarrod - im fine with it, but it really does seem like doocracy
rando - i'd like to also support talking to other non-profits; my understanding about building credits is holding balances and paying off. maybe should look at the optimal paths here
Discussion[edit | edit source]
micah - occupyicesf was recently raided, other groups in other locs were raided; can we host an art event at NB?[edit | edit source]
micah - i'm part of a subcommittee formed out of abolishICE SF and working to support other efforts in other cities and were wondering if we could use noisebridge to host an event for making events in support of current and raided occupiers, and people severly affected by these raids. if possible we'd love to do something this Friday (the 27th)
john - Yesss! for any events, you basically dont have to ask permission, check the calender and see if there's open space and make sure it's in line with our conception of excellence! do all the events!
beka - calender being events on noisebridge.net and meetup.com/noisebridge
jarrod - looks like nothing is conflicting on friday
cain - fetish fashion show[edit | edit source]
cain - little more than just a fashion show, they'd like to have vendors set up and allow ppl to purchase stuff, etc. will probably need to rearrange the space
corey - i'd like to request tutorials on sewing difficult materials
matt - please make sure ppl know how to put the space back into a sensible order
jeremy - are you the main point of contact?
cain - yes, other point of contact will be here sunday, spoke about donations
jarrod - will they be DEFINITELY donating if they make money? b/c i think they should if they're for profit. normally if a company would want to use our space, we'd charge them.
jarrod - be aware of lit crawl time conflicts
james - noisebridge store![edit | edit source]
james - it seems like a bunch of people at NB make art and there isn't a store associated with NB so it might be cool to have something (POD, etc. when possible?) that handles as much of the process as possible.
beka - why not doocratically do it?
james - integration w/ the website, etc, mostly
charlie - it sounds like you're doing some sort of drop ship sort of thing and we dont want to make some kind of expectation about Noisebridge being responsible for labor to make things get to people
james - yeah, i was thinking of stuff like cafepress that didn't involve us at all
matt - i think this is a cool idea, but we need to be aware of the tax issue with making money. so better to not do stuff *through* noisebridge but financially separated
john - having that financial wall would be REALLY good idea
jarrod - how do other hackerspaces do this sort of thing?? it would be good to look into
corey - we should ask the crucible
matt - infrastructure crises[edit | edit source]
we need to step up our donation game and the server has been going down; it seems to be down once a month which isn't good; the credentials and access should be distributed; this leads into other situations like the email server having been down all month; these infra issues have been solved in other areas; there needs to be a handle on them so people can access them
cain - I'd suggest setting up an aws account that all members have access to for whatever
jeremy - hashivault? good properties
john - we have monthly payments to linode and digital ocean; I think donate and rack are on servers being paid for by noisebridge
r - patrickod and superq are documented in github repo as having keys to ansible
trent - donate keys
beka - discussions on this are important; noisebridge tradition to have a small group of people who have the secrets of the thing and we then hand off the secrets; works until it doesn't work; we have a channel for this kind of issue (#doocracy-hackerspaces maybe?)
ben - there should be a repo; we use terraform
r - there is an ansible repo
r - we should have a better savings account[edit | edit source]
r - i'm willing to look into what the best options are; if you want to suggest one, ping me on slack (@r)
jarrod - sounds doocratic w/ treasurer's involvement