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== Discussion Item 2 == machine access protocal: Certain machines are very delicate and break easily and very expensive to fix. we need to make sure people are equipped to use them. These machines are deadly. Two main machines that need high cost maintenance: table sew, laser cut, kiew?, CNC machine, Metal CNC machine How will we stop people from breaking the Laser cutter Machine? 1 training 2 certification 3 RFID 1 Online training quiz possible --> give you a token/key to access the machine. But some machine requires physical walk through. 3 RFID authentication before using the machine: may have issuses with setting up the authentication system for all machines, but this enables accountability. Otois proposes either to have nobody have laser access and retrain or install a video camera in the space for these machines so we can know how to prevent. Ryan proposes retraiing (even if we can't identify certain people we may be able to prevent this with) Otis: jsut create user accounts for the computers and only those authorized users can use the machines. Ryan: Keying. Add a box with a little code on it, where users can the key only after a training. And you'll have to get a new key from a retraining after 3/6 months. Table sew has some sort of chemical on it. Otis: Table sew has 4/5 heads replaces now. People don't know what's conductive in general. Ryan: Alumium back insulation firm/ acrylic. Dave: Tell ppl if they want to use the machines, ask! People need to have specific traing for table sew/ laser cut. Ryan: There's a wiki page. Last updated is 2013. Dave: People don't know what to know. Why don't we lock the room? No it doesn't work in this space. Decision: key or training system??? 1) should we limit access to dangeous machines? What machines? 2) should we hold people accountable for using these dangeous tools? 3) if we hold people accountable, what can we do to hold people accountable? the miter saw injury rating --- high cost to repair--- low the laser cutter injury rating --- high cost to repair ---high the table saw injury rating --- high cost to repair--- high the sewing machines injury rating --- mid cost to repair --- high Maslow CNC injury rating --- mid cost to repair --- high Roland CNC injury rating --- mid cost to repair --- high 3D printers injury rating --- mid cost to repair --- high metal lathe injury rating --- high cost to repair --- high metal cnc mill injury rating --- high cost to repair --- high ** Otis describing past events happened with these machines + costs to repair. ** maybe we can do a bundle of saws Which machines do people hurt themselves on? Is there a document on their injuries? Dave: Consensus item --> should we lock rooms to protect the machines from people/ protect people from machines Otis: This will impede access to other machines in the space Dave: We give people 30 days access so they can see all. Fraddi: What about people who don't have 30 days access. Dave: People are let in by people with 30 days access. Ryan: This goes against noisebridge philosophy - we don't limit anyone's access. Otis: We can limit access to a tool, not an entire room. Maybe a tablet attach to a sew that ask questions. Dave: But the issue is people damaging the other part of the room. Otis: Do we know who's causing these situation? Are we paying attention to how people are using this space? Dave: We can just think of this proposal as optionally if you open this space to someone, you are responsible to what they do in this space. Reily: We are currently looking at people who are on the list so it's not a real way to scan out people. ** comment on anarchy + high consicousness + we have to elaborate ** Make clear what we are We need people to formulate what our ideas are. Put it into words. discuss Otis: I have two new concensus propsals Proposal 1: revoke access from all trained laser users . Everyone has to be retrainned because the laser machines had been updated. Proposal 2: we have people retain every few months Proposal 3: have some form of access control system for the saw stop, that a random person can't just access it without training. reset the code every three months. Saw stop code would be Ryan + Steve: These can be just small C consensus Noah: Put this on slack and discuss, so people can put proposal as thread to have everyone's input. *** everyone: GOOD JOB Noah *** How we deal with meth heads?
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