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These are the notes from the The 589th Meeting of Noisebridge. Zoom broken? (fake/old news)

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  • Date: August 04, 2020
  • Note-taker: Rikke
  • Pre-Meeting Moderator: Pyconaut
  • Moderators: Pyconaut

Meeting Summary[edit]

FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary. TLDR what happened at the meeting:

  • Announcements:
    • Circuit Hacking Mondays on Mondays
    • Neurotechx SF
    • Noisebridge Discord server is live
    • pyconaut streaming 3D model(ing) of the new space on Tuesdays at 7PM on Discord
    • 272 Capp St deposit is paid (yay!)
  • Finances:
    • $219,618.67 cash
    • 68,938.90 crypto
  • New philanthropists: nope
  • New members: nope
  • Consensus Items: nope
  • Discussion Items:
    • Summary of Rikke's convo w/ David Keenan re: accessibility in the new space
    • Meeting time for Fundraising Guild?
    • New Tuesday pre-meeting at 7pm for live streaming new space 3D model(s) on Discord



Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other. (What does that mean? How does the Anti-Harassment Policy fit into this? Are we SURE we know what being Excellent is? This is an important and fundamental conversation at Noisebridge, so let's give it like 120 seconds.)

Excellence is about caring for yourself, others, the space, and the community, it is about calling out when you see something wrong, and being available to help others. Being excellent can be doing things like taking out the trash, fixing a broken machine, cleaning up one of the areas, etc. As long as you follow the one rule, you will be welcome at noisebridge. We also have a Strict antiharassment policy, so if you are making people feel harassed through your actions, you will be asked to leave.


Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge. (What does that mean? How do you get a door key? Access to Slack, Discuss, etc?)

There are many ways to participate at noisebridge, this includes taking a class, teaching a class, giving a presentation, using our equipment, etc. You can also do just about any project since we run on do-ocracy. But if you think that the action or project might disturb others, please go through small c consensus and ask the community before you take any actions. Once you come by for a bit and gain some trust from the community, you can ask for a 30 day access token which will get you in the noisebridge door from 10am to 11pm for 30 days (then it then needs to be renewed). You can also participate digitally through our different online systems- noisebridge slack noisebridge discuss noisebridge wiki noisebridge meetup

Guilds Definition[edit]

Guilds are how groups at noisebridge organize. (What is a guild? How do you join one? etc)

Guilds are groups at noisebridge that rally around a common interest. Any group can create a guild by writing a Charter AND maintaining the group according to the metaguild guidelines:

Philanthropist definition[edit]

A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space. (What does that mean? What do we expect from Philanthropists? How do you become one? etc)

Once you come by for a while and have a lot of trust from the community, people might start asking if you want to become a philanthropist (you can also apply right away if you think the benefits are worth it). A philathropist is the next trust level after daytime access (30 day token) usually in escalating participation. You get 24/7 access during non plague times, pay some money (40 to 80 dollars amonth), you must know how to open and close the space, give tours, and introduce new people to the space. We want you to be able to help more people be able to access the space, and be excellent! To apply you get a big M Member to sponsor you, then you fill out a Plilanthropy pledge and read all the associated materials, then you come to a tuesday meeting to submit the application. During that meeting you will be questioned for a bit, and then if no one objectas to you being a philanthropist, you will become one.

Membership Definition[edit]

Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus. (What does that mean? What do we expect from Members? How do you become a Member? etc)

Big M Members are different from just being a member of the community, this is the highest trust level of the noisebridge community, it means that everyone in the community trusts that you would make good decisions about how noisebridge can move forward. This is an annoying bureocratic level of trust, as the only theoretical benefit is that you get to block big C concensus items, and vote on who we place on our board. To become one, you need to go through a four week process, where you fill out a membership form sponsored by two big M members. You bring it to a tuesday meeting where it is submitted, your membership will be discussed at that meeting, then at the next tuesday meeting your membership is discussed again and if it gets to concensus, you will be asked to leave the room while the members present decide if they want to block you or not, if no Member blocks your membership application you become a Member. For the next two weeks any big M member can retroactivly block your membership for any reason. If you get blocked figure out why, fix the issue and then reapply at a later time.


Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works. (How does Consensus work? What types of things are good for formal Consensus? What is small-c consensus? What is a "block"?)

concensus is the process by which things that can't be done through basic do-ocracy (things that affect others in the space.) It has two flavors, small c and big C. Small c concensus is the process where things that might cause slight issues in the space (events, big projects, moving rooms, etc), you just talk with the community before doing things. Big C concensus is the process by which action are taken at noisebridge that are too big, too expensive, or too critical to be done by small c concensus. These are things like Moving, spending a lot of money, or doing legal bureucratic garbage. This is a two week+ process where an item is propsed one week (if possible you should already have the item posted in draft concensus items, and the binder). At that meeting it will be discussed for a while, then the next week it will be discussed again, and if people feel confident, it will be brought up for concencus, and if no big M member blocks the consensus item it passes and becomes a Consensed item.

Main Meeting[edit]


Pyconaut (Ryan)- He him- Doing discord, VR, 3D modeling the new noisebridge, neurotech, and fixing my house lxpk- help w/ various Guilds, primarily Gamebridge and VR, currently working heavily on accessibility stuff and 3D model Iceaax (Aaron) He/Him: robotics and game dev; your future anarchist president Rikke - she/her; long-time lurker brought into the light by Contagion, working on accessibility stuff Mark - game dev stuff and Guild stuff, can find them as @Mark on Discuss or @Arity on Discord Tiffany - she/her, front end web dev stuff and sewing Romy, fan of Noisebridge, hardware and software (?) stuff x - facilitating notes scrolling from couch Dan - neurohacker teaching chickens hown to sing (starting the band Insane Chicken Posse)

Short announcements and events[edit]

60-second description per item in bulletpoint. Circuit Hacking Monday is on Mondays (shocking!)

Neurotechx SF hack nights every Thursday at 6

Rikke: Deposit on 272 Capp St. has been paid, currently awaiting keys (yay!)

Pyconaut: If you haven't joined the new Noisebridge Discord server, do it now! (this link will only work for the first 100 people to click it - we'll send out another one if/when needed)

Pyconaut is doing live (Discord) streaming of the Noisebridge 3D model (new space) - no consistent time (yet) but will announce on Slack / Discuss / Discord once they figure out the timing - it's been going pretty well, they're figuring out how to use the Blender Render to do lights n stuff, it's fun come watch and bring oyur own music

New Philanthropists[edit]


New Members[edit]


Financial Report[edit]

Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.

as of 7/29/2020 cash- 245,508.67 crypto-68,938.90 total-314,447.57 cash78.08% crypto-21.92%

but subtract 27k from cash balance for 272 capp street checks (sent in on the 7/30/2020) $9,000.00 for 1st month rent. $18,000.00 for Security Deposit

last cash collection from 2169 on 7/30/2020 1,110.00 dollars

which means new cash balance should be $219,618.67 cash holding.

  • Noisetor is not currently up.
  • Any other details by those participating in handling our financials

from tyler on discuss " Mailed out some heckin big checks today. $9,000.00 for 1st month rent. $18,000.00 for Security Deposit Will get key access sometime next week. So I guess this 10 year lease is officially started when those get deposited. Woo! "

Fundraising Update[edit]

How's it all going Pyconaut: Have not has a fundraising guild mtg yet, need to find a good time slot; pyconaut has been looking aorund at diff grants and possible events that we can host virtually - thinks a couple good options could be 1) fundraising ver of 5MoF, 2) bring back Hackomedy (?), 3) try to do some project fundraising for new space w/ focused goals like ADA, elevator, new internet and hardware for buildout (routers, servers, etc)

Need more people to join in the effort - also on slack

GuildMaster's Report[edit]

What is the current state of structural organization at Noisebridge?

  • What guilds are active? (Read the active guilds from Guilds wiki page)
    • (For each guild mentioned, ask if guild rep is present for a brief status update)
  • Would you like to join or start a guild? Checkout our guidelines or contact MetaGuild for help.

Mark (pls read if not present): We had a guild philosophy meeting on Thursday. notes and prompt for further discussion can be found here: Mostly talked about Discuss forum, talked about how to manage conversations in general, talked about email servers which is an interesting managerial problem to solve

lxpk: Had the first Accessibility Guild mtg Friday two weeks ago, will continue to have those regurlarly on Fridays at 6PM on Discord

Any other guilds/groups have an update to report?


Proposals from last week [edit]

(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the Consensus Items History page.)


Proposals for next week [edit]

(Add any new items for consensus to the Current Consensus Items page.)



1) Rikke: Talked to david kenan about ada stuff 2) pyconaut: NB Fundraising Guild metting time 3) pyconaut: 3D modeling time for The New NB, wants to share so ppl can work together

Discussion Item 1[edit]

David kenan ada discussion

We discussed 3 key itens 1 the CASp inspection ()w 2 Basic ada compilance 3 physical improvaments for the space

first david outlinedd that the reason to get a CASp inspection is to make persciption that will allow for upgrades that if done corectly will portect us from litigation about ADA

if we dont make all of the perscroiptions we could become liable for not folloing the recomendations.

he says we should do it before we move in, partly because when we move in we might cause changes thhat would require new requirements.

Kim Blackseth is the recommended person (he did Omni) was about 4k this will be expidited by having archatectural floor plans. Also make sure to have upgrade drawings ready as well

it does not need to be notoarised or certified floor plans, they just need to be accurate to scale, for doors and the like.

David is getting a quote for a inclined stair lift vs a verticle elevator

it would be hard to install a full ada compliant stairlift or elevator.

come join us on friday

start clearing the differetn bars for ADA, first floor is most importaint, then worry about the second floor

wide enough doors, ADA bathroom, make sure anything that could be hosted upstairs can be hosted downstairs if need be.

LXPK - sound resonable, we can discuss more on friday

Discussion Item 2[edit]

Pyconaut: fundraising guild meeting time (planning) - previous meeting was the hour before Tuesday general meeting (so 7pm), but we might want to change that? some specific ppl we want to have involved (e.g. Tyler), so need to find time that works for them

Pyconaut was one of the ppl involved in the previous fundraising group, so want to join to share knowledge from past efforts, is free most evenings (except tuesdays and thusdays and the friday ADA guild time)

lxpk will attend whenever they can

Pyconaut will make a Google form for ppl to sign up the fundraising effort; anyone is free to join, it is pretty involved, you *will* have work to do outside of the mtgs, will hold ppl accountable

During the first mtg, pyconaut will try to share knowledge from past meetings, others should share what they've learned in or out of NB

Aaron may be interested in joining?

Pyconaut will send out something in the next couple of days re: meeting

Questions? (crickets)

Discussion Item 3[edit]

Both lxpk and pyconaut are working on 3D models; will probably need to rework once X has done accurate plan drawings; the plans we have so far are not all that accurate, but accurate enough to come up w/ designs for the new space

pyconaut's model is mostly the building, incl. ADA features; didn't have exact metrics, so over-estimated some things - needs input from others

lxpk suggests Tuesday pre-meeting, 3D modeling session should start no later than 7pm, pyconaut might start closer to 6pm since he likes to model for long periods - several ppl can simul-stream, so can watch multiple ppl working on their models at once

will also have models for ppl to dl and mod, will link in Slack / Discuss / Discord - lxpk has already shared their model

Time for a new SimBridge (!) - maybe this should live under VR Guild - lxpk's new model will also include the old one, since their old model already incl. the 272 Capp building as part of the external context

discuss link to discussion (links to project files will be shared soon)

Mark: We should look into version control solution so we can all collaborate and share ideas in the new model, asynchronously. Different versions of the model should exist, but all accessible via a singular repository of some sort.

End of Meeting[edit]

11 ppl in attendance by the end of the meeting at 9:09