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These are the notes from the The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge.

Date: 7pm Pacific Daylight Time; March 23th, 2021

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Note-taker: meh Moderators: kind of

  • One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.

Meeting Summary[edit]


  • Fundraising Update
  • Announcements:
  • Finances:
  • New members:
  • New philanthropists:
  • Consensus Items:
  • Discussion Items:


  • Pyconaut- He / him - Playing videya gamez and stuff, having spicy pasta.

Short announcements and events[edit]

'60-second description per item in bulletpoint.

NeuroTechX SF hacknights are Thursday at 6PM on meetup

Dan- Classes have been happening

   Whitebording and algorithms tomorrow at 6PM
   At 8PM Crypto meetup

Might have a hacknight on thursday at 6PM on jitsi

OHSNAP meetup on saturday at 2PM

Cohack at noonish on Saturday

Accessibility meeting on friday at 6PM on Hackitorium Jitsi

   We will be discussing elevator more

Noisebridge Cohack Livestream Wed at 6PM

   More VirtualCoffeeBot hacking


Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.

(What does that mean? How does the Anti-Harassment Policy fit into this? Are we SURE we know what being Excellent is? This is an important and fundamental conversation at Noisebridge, so let's give it like 120 seconds.)

Tj- If you want to do something, just do it, but make sure to be exellent to eachother.

Excellence is about caring for yourself, others, the space, and the community, it is about calling out when you see something wrong, and being availble to help others. Being exccelent can be doing things like taking out the trash, fixing a broken machine, cleaning up one of the areas, etc. As long as you follow the one rule, you will be welcome at noisebridge. We also have a Strict antiharrasment policy, so if you are making people feel harrased through your actions, you will be asked to leave. If you feel harrased at Noisebridge, Please contact someone in noisebridge who you trust to help you out, or get in touch with our brave space people, there are people on slack, discuss, and discord who are pretty easy to reach with these issues. If you are harrasing people, you will be asked to leave, and if it is deemed nessassary you will be 86ed.


Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge.

(What does that mean? How do you get a door key? Access to Slack, Discuss, etc?)

There are many ways to participate at noisebridge, this includes taking a class, teaching a class, giving a presentation, using our equiptment, etc. You can also do just about any project since we run on do-ocracy. But if you think that the action or project might disturb others, please go through small c concensus and ask the community before you take any actions. Once you come by for a bit and gain some trust from the community, you can ask for a 30 day access token which will get you in the noisebridge door from 10am to 11pm for 30 days (then it then needs to be renewed). You can also participate digitally through our different online systems- noisebridge slack noisebridge discuss noisebridge wiki noisebridge meetup


A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space.

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Philanthropists? How do you become one? etc)

If you don't want a ton of commitment choose to become the

Once you come by for a while and have a lot of trust from the community, people might start asking if you want to become a philanthropist (you can also apply right away if you think the benefits are worth it). A philathropist is the next trust level after daytime access (30 day token) usually in escalating participation. You get 24/7 access during non plague times, pay some money (40 to 80 dollars), give tours and introduce new people to the space. We want more of them to help more people be able to access the space!

Membership Binder [edit]

Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus.

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Members? How do you become a Member? etc)

You have the the ability to Block Big C Concensus items. You need 2 Sponsors who are already Big M members, and then you need 4 weeks for of people checking your exellence and go through the process of becoming a Big M member

Big M Members are different from just being a member of the community, this is the highest trust level of the noisebridge community, it means that everyone in the community trusts that you would make good decisions about how noisebridge can move forward. This is an annoying bureocratic level of trust, as the only theoretical benefit is that you get to block big C concensus items, and vote on who we place on our board. To become one, you need to go through a four week process, where you fill out a membership form sponsored by two big M members. You bring it to a tuesday meeting where it is submitted, your membership will be discussed at that meeting, then at the next tuesday meeting your membership is discussed again and if it gets to concensus, you will be asked to leave the room while the members present decide if they want to block you or not, if no member blocks your membership application you become a member. For the next two weeks any big M member can retroactivly block your membership for any reason. IF you get blocked figure out why, fix the issue, and apply again in a few months.

Financial Report[edit]

Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.

  • Funds in bank: hasent really changed since last week all that much

Cash: $332,012 Crypto: $173,891 Total: $505,903

Fundraising Update[edit]

How's it all going

research stuff


Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works.

(How does Consensus work? What types of things are good for formal Consensus? What is small-c consensus? What is a "block"?)

concensus is the process by which things that can't be done through basic do-ocracy (things that affect others in the space.) It has two flavors, small c and big C. Small c concensus is the process where things that might cause slight issues in the space (events, big projects, moving rooms, etc), you just talk with the community before doing things. Big C concensus is the process by which action are taken at noisebridge that are to big, to expensive, or to critical to be done by small c concensus. These are things like Moving, spending a lot of money, or doing legal bureucratic garbage. This is a two week+ process where an item is propsed one week (if possible you should already have the item posted in draft concensus items, and the binder). At that meeting it will be discussed for a while, then the next week it will be discussed again, and if people feel confident, it will be brought up for concencus, and if no big M member blocks the consensus items it passes and becomes a Consensed item.

Proposals from last week [edit]

(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the Consensus Items History page.) none

Proposals for next week [edit]

(Add any new items for consensus to the Current Consensus Items page.) none


Discussion Item 1[edit]


The key Idea that we were wondering if it could be done is, to add a short interior ramp that would lift our elevator up about 2 feet of elevation, which would allow us to install a much simpiler virtical wheelchair lift, instead of the 100k+ for a full elevator. The conserns are still the same, whith bye in for the landlord, still a decent chunk of money (50k?), but a much easier install.

The reason this is better for noisebridge is a proper elevator at noissebridge would require modification of both the first floor (pit), the hole between the floors, and the ceiling / roof, as we would need 10 feet on the second floor while we only have 8 feet.

Problem with the wheelchair lift, is that the have a 14 foot max length normally, and our first floor is 15.5 feet. So we need to add a ramp to get that distance down.

Any comments from the current crew of noisebridge spaceship

current calculations would be a 20 foot ramp would get us the 1.5 feet of gain.

TJ- Where would the ramp go

Rikke- Zig Zag

TJ- Will the lift be usable for those without a wheelchair but have stair dificulty

Dan- That makes sense

We could also use a really long ramp to get to the second floor.

Or we could install a 2 foot wheelchair lift to get you to the start of the next wheelchair lift.

Dan- THis will still need permits, and we definitly need to get landlord permission now. And then get some fundraising.

Rikke- We definitly need some professional input from the people who actually do this type of installs.

Oeder of Operations

   Get professional input
   Get approval for option from landlord

Discussion Item 2[edit]

Proof of Noise -- The Matrix / mail, yo

This is ME- I want to see if noisebridge is interested in have kits and stuff for sale, including privacy related projects like TFC, and OHSNAP projects.

Add proof via cryptology showing that it is secure and it was built at noisebridge (pr00f of n01s3)

Pyconaut- Noisebridge can also do Fiscal sponsorship for projects. Check concensus item histor for June 2016.

Pyconaut- There is presidence for selling suff out of noisebridge, we have a store, and we have sold electronics kits and hacker passports before.

Dan- This proof of noise is a really cool idea, especially for security hardware, where verifying of hardware is importaint.

Pyconaut- I am definitly interested in the proof of noise (I live actually useful blockchains, and cryptographic verification).

There are already some intrest in TFC nodes.

Current issue for the TFC and OHSNAP projects is that they need a private mailing list, on its own mini server. This is a call for help with this.

Pyconaut- If this mailing list does get created, it would be nice if the process is well documented for future noisebridgers who want to creat their own mailing lists.

Dan- How can we walk this secure hardware line that the gov likes to keep a check on. Maybe get in touch with EFF. How do we know who will be buying this hardware, how do we secure noisebridge, and still make the hardware accessible and open.

Pyconaut- There is a interesting line with this type of stuff- Do we sell to everyone, or do we choose who we sell to (are we willing to sell hardware to unexellent people in the name of being open, and not creating walled gardens / private clubs of who can get our hardware). Having all the code and hardware designs be open source public could help alot, and could allow us th choose who we sell to without locking people out from doing stuff themselves.

Discussion item 3[edit]

Status check in

Electro.noise- Is noisebridge Open?

Pyconaut- No.

Dan- Noisebridge is still closed, due to continuing pandemic, and also needing a lot of work building out the new space. If you are a knowledgeable volunteer, please get ready to help with the upcoming buildout.

Pyconaut- If you want to know how you can currently help, please come to tuesday meetings, or check in with some of the currently active people preparing the buildout in diferent aspects.

Tina- What about people who are fully vaccinated.

Dan- Right now it is less about vaccine and more about people who are knowledgebale, and willing to help.

TJ- It is helpful though to be vaccinated. If you can get it, you should.

Dan- Right now we are still going to treat everyone equal (masks, distance, households). Right now the main projects are cleaning and maintaining our invintory.

Right now SF is in Oarnge teir of california Covid infection rate.

Dan- Also the mission has a higher rate of infection then a lot of the city, so we need to be even more careful.

TJ- "indoor businesses open with modifications" is orange tier reopening level.

Pyconaut- Noisebridge currently is not able to do the modifications nessassary for opening in this teir, at this time.

Dan- Also Noisebridge is in One of the Highest rate locations of SF. Zoom in to where noisebridge is. Although Noisebridge is safe inside, it is getting there, and if you need to get food that is the danger.

Pyconaut- We are also unsure how SF will move out of oarnge teir (will it wait tell every part of SF is out of the Oargen tier, or will it move to a neighborhood basis, or will it stupidly treat all of SF the same even if it isn't.)


   Our lease

   On March 3, 2021, SF reopened some businesses after being moved into the State's Red Tier

   "The  parties  acknowledge  the  current  COVID-19 pandemic,  and related current and potential future local, state, and national government orders requiring or encouraging businesses such as Lessee’s to remain closed to the public (the “COVID-19 Orders”). The parties agree that this Agreement shall commence on the first day of the month  following   the  lifting  of   the  last  of  the   applicable  COVID-19  Orders  (the “Commencement Date”.  

Dan- Thank you Pyconaut foir taking notez.

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