Editing Meeting Notes 2022 04 19 (section)

== Discussion Item 3 ==
The Noel situation

Claus - Needed community to set boundaries, not with him as an individual; should make a decision and be clear on what stands. he's been here for 3 weeks and many people find him obnoxious. THe reason I asked hime to leave because he brought stolen property at noisebridge. He left the bike here. Bay shore has not picked it up yet. 

Woz-
I only interacted with him for one or 2 days and I asked him to do some things like boiling apoxy and then he'd just do it somewhere else. He made a problem and did not solve it and leaft it to us and is not a good fit for the space. 

Les:
    It is part of a patern that I recognize. Hed say things like that is a nice thinkpad and noted my discomfort and put his hands near my thinkpad as a stand alone event, but I don't think that alone is bad. Barring some level of remorse. it seems that he was willing to transgress boundaries. I'd like to reach out to victoria about this.
    
    ROnald
    Ddin't know so many people had problems with him. I could see grating personality, but I guess I don't think he's a bad person. If he's willing to do something about it. I wouldn't 86 him myself. Is helpful.
    
    Woz
    you said you didn't want to 86 him, woudl you block? (no)
    
    Farley
    Just I said this before in slack I told him to get off the tables and then jumped on it for no reason at all. THe table bowed under his wieght. I enjoyed his company and he broought some pizza which was nice. I think he has "authority issues".
    
alex:
    in 2020 he brought in a scooter from baywheels. THat scooter he was working on stayed on the floor of the electronics bench and I had to put it in a box and it bothered me that he left this hugh scooter in the workspace. I told him that I don't appreciate obstructing the space. I don't think that is an 86 level event.

Woz
86ing is not permanent. We are open to mediation (to a fault). there is this discussino if he is a "good guy". What matters is if you can work with the space. It is clear that he cna't work well with others in the space or be considerate. Regarding Victoria: Sometimes one person comes here alot. We should include other people in their group.

Claus: I err on the side of not stepping in on issues.

When people do things that are red flags and not letting you talk to their friend, that might be a red flag. People have to speak up for themselves here. You have to make it a point if you think there is an issue. Don't let someone bully you into doing something that you normally wouldn't do. 

LXBK: it is ok that some people are averse to confrontation, but you can ask someone else to help you out if you feel the concern. If you are really mad then you might just want to deal with things.

TJ:
    one: We probably only have one person with reservations
    2 I think noisebridge requires a certain level of maturity

lxbk
When I asked him about theft related stuff, I felt gasslighted about it. If that is to happen again they often don't have documentation. Please document in slack in the 
future just to make sure we can track.

Elan: I feel strongly about the theft and I was fumigating the first floor. This could open up noisebridge to legal liability. And if someone stops I think that is one thing. I think having noisebridge at legal risk is a danger that I don't want us to deal with.

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If you don't feel like being brave and coalition build to address the issue. We can talk things out hopefully.


I am easily one of the people that don't lead to long term problems. I noticed that he had a gaze. I told others that I don't feel comfortable with the gaze he was having.