Editing Meeting Notes 2022 10 04 (section)

= Discussion =

== Discussion Item 1 ==

Brandon: Poetry Circle event

Representing a group named 16th & Mission. Basically I am just here on behalf of the group to request May 24 to possibly do a show here if it's alright with y'all. We wanted to approach you early to make sure we aren't stepping on your toes. Obviously we don't have details worked out yet.

probably about an hour or so of poetry, a handful of readers

Moof: I can vouch that it is a very excellent thing.

Mark: You are very welcome to host that sort of thing here. We have a stage and a working PA here.

What you do generally is you set up the event yourself. You make a page for it on the wiki, put the links to the page in the events section. Assuming you've done due diligence that there is not a conflict. Post it and then announce it in the various social platforms. If you want help with mailing lists we can help you. The wiki has a "how to set up and event" page and you can follow that. Come to a meeting or two a couple meetings before and announce during the announcement section - that is good advance notice.

A good practice right now assuming it is like this in May is to post in the woodshop channels to ask them not to be working during the event. Maybe post a flyer saying "an event is running at XYZ time please avoid using tools."

It is first come first served as far as staking out dates for events. If you need anything, ask in the events support channel in Discord.

== Discussion Item 2 ==
Moof: Music Guild wants to get a couch off craigslist and needs a truck or van, and needs small c consensus for the earlier spending need! We have a place in the music room for it and feel it would be an excellent addition. Please contact Moof in the Discord for coordination.

Loren - we have taken couches out of the music room in the past, as ppl have used them to sleep on. As recently as within the last six months.

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Moof: Emeline says we require small-c consensus for the purchase of audio interface as discussed earlier in the meeting.

Mark - does anyone object?

crickets
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TJ - a lot of us are giving a hesitant "yes" to the couch

The more the room is actively used for music, the less chance the couch will be abused. And it seems the room is getting good, frequent use and stewardship as of late.

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John offeres his services as a handy creator of things to various noisebridge projects that need it!

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== Discussion Item 3 ==
Rajah: setting up a prototype home assistant server. Re: access control: should keep to a playground/sandbox area? Asking before starting.

When I was introduced to home assistants, I would buy something like a smartbulb and flash it and connect it to an ESP32 or something else. But you don't want those running on an accessible network - usually it is better to have it on a separate network.

I don't know how the NB network works and how I should connect such devices. I think this could  be helpful as far as turning lights off in the space. But I don't want to be sending/sharing passwords - I don't want ot be an admin.

Mark: If you set something up, you have to maintain it.

Rajah: But this is a security thing so you don't want the wrong person to have access. I can set up my own network and connect it to the NB network on another day.

TJ: A question here is how we are keeping up NB passwords. Currently we are doing a password retrieval of many accounts. Emeline, is there another way to set up another Bitfolder (sp?) page for IT passwords?

Loren: For alot of stuff in the space, we just have password "noisebridge" on everything. Until you have a problem, just make the password "noisebridge".

Rajah: I don't mind doing that. Just for this you need people from the internet to have access into this system. I guess what I'm getting to is that I know there's an open wifi network.

TJ: <xw is summarizing> We don't really have separation and just keep things relatively open.

Rajah: If its all one I have no problem with using the open NB network.

Loren - the hard part is the intial process of building it. Worry about setting up passwords later

Mark sets up channel in discord. Start discussing!

== Discussion Item 4 == 

Door status?

TJ wants some organization around our opening hours and stuff like that.
Proposed consensus item:
    
Current wording:
    - We should be open to the public as often as we can. That being said, the front gate door should be closed at all times, and it is Excellent to introduce all new Noisebridgers via tour. Because of this, Noisebridge will have open doors only when a Noisebridger is present and ready to receive.
    
    Eric - Just a side note re: access: When the light is turned on in the print shop, SHED lights up. Hmmmm
    
    Mike - I remember back when Members had a card and they had to let each person in the gate with the card. 
    Mark - then they had to manually open the upstairs door for them and greet them.
    
    Mike - If you have a group that is meeting like in a class, they should be able to temporarily allow open access via the gate (unique code per class?)

 re: being too busy to answer. It is important to exercise our freedom to not answer the door all the time.
 
 TJ - I'd like to get a sense of the room, are people saying we are too closed to people generally? Are lots of people coming over and not being able to get in?
 
 Emeline - I have been around and not let people in because I was busy and in the space by myself, but these people felt entitled to come in when I looked out the window to see who it was.
 
 TJ - I've heard people talk about missing stuff at the space, and because lots of people come around and seemingly havent been greeted properly, they appear to just be wandering around. Possibly suspicious behavior. Not necessarily malicious, but there's some kinf of implication there. I don't want to put words in peoples' mouths about this though.
 
 Loren - this could be a place for guilds to step up and assign responsibilities?
 
 TJ - don't wish to solve manufactured problems - is this an actual real issue we are having?

 Loren - there is always the option of letting us act by not acting. I'm very sensitive to not doing work we don't have people.
 
 Mark - I think what this consensus item does is explicitly say what is excellent vs unexcellent. 
 
 TJ - there historically has been no explicit guidance. But this could very well be an overreaction.
 
 (Discussion about cultural norms and what is generally considered "excellent")

Conversation around this potential item will continue online

== Discussion Item 5 ===
small-C consensus to sign a Petition

https://www.savecaliforniasolar.org/oct11

Mark - It's good to ask NBers to sign things and exercise their political will. I don't think it is good to ask NB to do anything like that. I think we try to be as politically neutral as possible as an organization because there are many political viewpoints within this community. And this is a political thing because you are asking politicians to do things.