Meeting Notes 2023 03 14
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== Discussion Item 4 == Regarding recent 5150 call. * JLB: It's unexcellent to bring police officers into the space Police were not called. Police allowed to enter the space. In front yard, were let into the gate. * Said on crisis call, if police with do not respond. "if we need to remove someone from your business". Work toward * Sam: proposal, if crisis team is called (and police too). If you don't want to interact with them. Invite people to leave and not return, give people an opportunity to leave without calling police. * TJ: I may have been a bit misleading w/ the topic. The issue is not that services were called, its that police decided to crash the party. It was mostly handled excellently, except the only questionable thing that happened is that the police were allowed to enter the gate. * John: as long as we have clear agreement that we're stopping police at the gate. all god. * Chris: problem w/ the police is that fence is incomplete. They have every right to come inside because that thing is not a completely enlcosed enclosure. It has to be totally enclosed to be called a "private area", legally speaking. * Mark: I will talk to the person who let them in to the gate about what they did. Hopefully they wont do it again. * JD: As I understand the situation was serious, and if we make a blanket statement that police are NEVER allowed in, we may potentially be shooting ourselves in the foot. We need to be conscious of the totality of the individual circumstances each time in order to make good decisions about what to allow. * T: This could be overpreparing for a situation that maynever happen tbh. No one will consult the wiki about our protocol in the event of an immediate/imminent safety threat. * TJ: Lets agree that emergency services being allowed in was a good idea. But do we explicitly have to say no cops? Or in certain situations is it useful? * J: Only if there is a weaponweilding maniac. Only scenario. * John: Whatever we do lets keep it simple so ppl remember it. * Farley: I volunteer to add some wording to the wiki covering this.
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