Editing Meeting Notes 2023 05 09 (section)

= Discussion =
== Discussion Item 1: AHP and CoC updates and revisions ==

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14BlMYh-i1CbzUGj_AaqaF-YI2sL4WNokhJxEbev0G-U/edit#heading=h.mt44158ux3ii

Why removal of 2nd paragraph?
- a lot of discussion
- "racism is power plus/times privelege"

More context, previous language, updates:
* https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Anti-Harassment_Policy
* https://github.com/noisebridge/deprecated-bureaucracy/blob/master/code-of-conduct/anti-harassment-policy.md
* https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/2018_02_27_Anti-Harassment_Policy_Revision

Also added description of reporting process.


== Discussion Item 2: Farley's Proposed Consensus Changes ==
@mark
It is proposed that requiring 2 members, or a percentage of members, for a block to happen.

Steve: There were previously proposed drastic changes to concesus process.

Mark: Those changes passed. Many more people have become associate members. Not that many have followed through and applied for full big M membership.

Steve: I don't think it should chance and it is hard to become a membership for a reason.

It's hard to become a member, and that's good. Group think can happen and we should allow for 

Elan: You brought up a good point that Membership currently has a lot of power. I thin require multiple people, even if its just two, then that is no longer quite as much power, then there is less risk of greatly growing big M Membership numbers. Less power per Member == less reason for anyone in particular to block someone else becoming a member. No wild contrarians basically?

Loren: Is not sure what thing this change accomplishes/what is the intent. Noisebridge is a carefully balanced state. I think meeting consensus blocking policy is a formal _reflection_ of how the space works in fact or in practice.  if not everyone at the meeting is willing to enforce it, we get to have exactly the same discussions, but we also fight for a Mandate of Meeting. Current "encouraging excellence" changes to "enforcing [other's] new policy", which doesn't seem like an improvement to me.

Ken: This brought to mind power to veto about power in the UN. Foreign minister of a facist country can attend. When veto is given to a single person this can cause issue.
Loren: blocks by multiple associate members? (response: no, they're way too loosely admitted).

Ken: Spoke to a noisebridge who said they were an associate member. Why can't membership be put on pause. Longtime non-contributing members. 

Loren: "It's not worth creating rules just to have hackers figure out how to skirt around them."

Steve: Naiively I'm thinking that Farley has seen a problem where a single member has caused a ruckus. What is this a response to?

Mark: Yes there has been some head-butting on various issues. 
- Graffiti. Justin being a contrarian.

JD: Nothing about us without us. In a flat hierarchy no decision would affect the others without them consenting to it. 

Loren: One variant is that blocking is a signal that you would be willing to walk away from the group over. Policy isn't meaningful if it isn't enforced. 
If you aren't consensed on it, then it is just us doing wordplay as a group.

Mark: It is generally impressed upon new Members that blocking shouldn't be seen as a veto as much as an attempt to continue discussion (not "No" but "Not yet")

Loren: This should be put on membership page.
Ken: Creativity over Procedure. 
Loren: It would be nice to have a broader discussion on these with votes and vibe check ideas. see wiki page: "Tending the Commons": https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/User:Mcint/TendingTheCommons


== Discussion Item 3: Membership software? ==
https://doubleunion.org/
https://github.com/doubleunion/arooo

Elan: membership records are mess, amalgamation of lost...
there was an old membership binder, there's a new one

Looking for vibe check to see if anyone is philosophically opposed to a public-ish record in some form.

Looking to get a digital record-keeping system in place.

Steve: membership is secret. 

E: There are members under a nym. Their identity is kept secret, and the way they give money to treasurer is kind of manual.

Steve: would be nice to keep the anonymity of Members, especially those who without that would stop paying

E: I don't think this would at all stop the anonymous membership option

JD: Does this cover who has access to the space?
E: Yes, they currently track which members have keys.

== Discussion Item 4: Space Security? ==

Elan: Previously authorized up to $1,400 in spending to make an ADA compliant entrance. Maybe needs re-upping/expansion to $2000?. Someone should be in-charge of reaching out to people (i.e. contractors) if no one else does. I will maybe if she doesn't soon.

JD: Mark asked me to look at back door but did some research and the simplest thing to do would be electric door strike with press to exit. Defaulting to open in power outage. 

Recomend something that is code compliant at recomended height. 
JD: That doesn't sound code compliant for public building. Landlord should pay for or at least kick in some cash help.

Mark: Wanted to ask about idea of locking up the space late at night to everyone aside from members. 

Max: For closing the space but want to clarify when it would be open.

Ken: Support that there are clearly deliniated hours for associate members. This also encourages others to become big-M membership. 

Elan: If the goal is to discourage people living out the space I think we should also have big-M members. 

Mark: Goal is to allow for better supervision of the space. 

Elan: It sounds like most people are in favor of this. What time 

Collin: Was in at 10am. Like 9am when no one else is around. It would be nice to have a policy that is accomodating to early birds. 

Loren: What hours would we want to 

Mark: Looking into SHED at the moment.

Max: Can Members still give 24h access?
Elan: I don't think this is used and possibly lost institutional knowledge.

Ken: I am most productive at night and would be negatively affected. This is my motivation for Membership.

Sam: Is for this as long as it is temporary