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= Big C Consensus Items = Nobody likes 3 hour meetings, only explain if people ask. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items == [[ Consensus Items ]] == Only for talking about Big C consensus items, small c consensus items should be discussed with people at the space at the time of the change/new item. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items === Item 1: Stricter definition of block === Farley is proposing increasing the number of members needed to block to 2 members. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Draft_Consensus_Items provisionally for 3 months. with caveat that 1 member is required to block application for new membership requested by loren. and that 1 member only be required to block consensus items proposed by non members. JD: Should have good faith attempt at compromise before putting a hold on it Needs some tweaking to terminology: block. But we could have a separate hold, don't want something brought in that's not unanimously proposed on Farley: Should be held for extra week in addition to two weeks of discussion? JD: Yes. 1 person can only effectively put hold on process. Add another week just to give members time. Only need to extend for major changes Farley: For putting on hold for 1 week, hate to turn into infinite holds. Loren: If two people disagree, then it's blocked. Base proposal is 1 person can't block, everything else is nice to have JD: "Consent should not be unreasonably withheld" Can't block without a valid reason. Need to articulate reason for block Farley: We should not have ability to block / hold past 1 week Loren: Feels weird to say "we don't like reasons, therefore not arguing in good faith" JD: Need to have an articulate reason. Goes with good faith effort to compromise Farley: Anything else? Loren: Make sure wiki has that. JD: Worried about taking too long. We don't need to be in a hurry. The more time we have to discuss and have everyone comfortable with what's happening. Farley: There's critical mass behind a decision that doesn't last forever. JD: What if they're not agreeing with you Farley: Favor easily amendible policy over initially correct policy. JD: Could you post wording, link to wording to #weekly-meeting-text in Discord? Farley: Will do. Farley will update consensus item text to reflect other suggestions during the meeting, from JD and other updates he articulated. ===== Item 2: DHCP / Anti Harrassment Policy Update ====== https://docs.google.com/document/d/14BlMYh-i1CbzUGj_AaqaF-YI2sL4WNokhJxEbev0G-U/edit JD read discussion to the meeting. Why did this come up now? * Some recent long lagging Ask to leave and 86 / Ban instances took longer to come together and act. * Comments of getting talked over, women at noisebridge. * JD previous policy was written in 2013. Does not reflect 2020s workplace policies. Hostile environment. ** Sophia: change the culture? ** JD make it easier to get new people to inspect that. ** Comment from SG in the jitsi: I think the comparison to workplaces is relevant because it's a place where the government has offered protections enshrined in law. If we're trying to build something better in here than what's out there we should endeavor to beat that as a standard. CONSENSED!the conversation was continued after the meeting was adjourned, and there was Consensus about the Anti Harassment Policy, but the Community Standards were determined to be a living thing in need of adjustment but not requiring big C Consensus. The current wording will be reviewed, and updated continuously over time.
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