Meeting Notes 2024 06 18

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Date: 2024_06_18

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Note-takers: Mark Moderators: Ryan

Meeting Summary[edit | edit source]

FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST/SLACK/DISCORD Include: TLDR what happened at the meeting:

  • Fundraising Update:
  • Announcements:
  • Finances:
  • New members:
  • New associates:
  • Consensus Items:
  • Discussion Items:

Introductions[edit | edit source]

  • Pyconaut - he/him, been hangin around NB a ong time, like 9 years. I enjoy doing events
  • Cloud - 5 years NBer. I host 5Minutesof Fame
  • Julius - he/him. been associated with NB a while, but been more involved for only the last year and a half
  • Jennifer - been associated with NB for like 3 years, dont come aroundoften. Do consulting grantwriting, database marketing, etc
  • Josh - he/they. First time here ever. Passing through town going up the west coat. from tuscon. Working on something called TusconMesh
  • Wheezy - also first time here today. :|
  • Mark - secretary
  • Vanko - second time here, i like fashion. And games!
  • Ryan - first came about a month ago. Been enjoying it. Making a couple personal projects. Fermented Reality burning man camp.
  • Elle/Ellen/other names - mostly sew and write and do woodworking but havent gotten to do much of that lately.
  • Elan - spacebidge!
  • Zack - zack of all trades. been doing laser cutting!


Short announcements and events[edit | edit source]

Wheezy - be more vigilant about making sure ppl don't park in our neighbors spots!

Elan - We were invited to a rocketry launch this Saturday by folks at Double Union. See #happenings channel

Vanko - Hosting Fashion Show June 28th 8:30 - 11 pm

Pyconaut - This last weekend was Open Sauce! Lots of bridgers and people from area spaces chipped in to make it an awesome event and afterparty!

Elle - sewing will have its industrial machine certification class. Next weekend! Getting a new industrial coverstitch machine!

Excellence[edit | edit source]

Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other. (On first Tuesdays, seek a few definitions. Other Tuesday, give a 1-3 sentence summary.)

Julius - part of what it means is your presence in the space is positively enabling other people to do what they want to do.

Zack - if you are not sure of the intention of someone, assume positive intentions first.

Jennifer - be respectful of people's space and cooperate.

Elan - a lot of ppl come through here and come from a lot of different backgrounds. Interact with the intention of trying to grow the community rather than exclude. Everyone can contribute in their own way.

Wheezy be condierate of others, try to have some degree of emotional intelligence about others and how they use the space. Respect boundaries and such. Do-ocratically do things to maintain the space.

What does that mean? Please see our page on excellence https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence!

Anti-Harassment Policy & Community Standards of Excellence[edit | edit source]

Noisebridge has an Anti-Harassment Policy https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Anti-Harassment_Policy Everyone is expected to follow the Anti-Harassment Policy, please familiarize yourself with it.) TWO MINUTES MAX More approachable & specific guidelines, https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards https://safespace.noisebridge.net/ is one way to quickly raise issues which will be seen by people in Slack.

Brief Kudos[edit | edit source]

Recent examples of excellent behavior, say 3, unless the passion moves you.

Pyco - Mark for helping so much with organizing with Open Sauce. Mark - Corey for helping get NGALAC working and everyone else who volunteered for Open Sauce! So many folks! Elan - kudos to elle, julius, quinten, ash, shabam?, omelia, wheezy for last minute sewing help, everyone who made the balloon launch possible on sunday! Ryan - kudos to person who did lot of deep cleaning in prep for opensauce. maybe it was ken or momo? Julius - Mohammed for laser cutting the laser reflector last minute also. Elle - to Ken who did BTS stuff this week. Came all the way to hayward to investigate this sewing machine and hep w/ negotiations. And to new member J X who ran a really successful robotics meetup Thursday! Zack - Paolo for accomodating 4 people for laser training

Guilds[edit | edit source]

  • What are guilds - briefly describe (much like the previous section on "Excellence")

Music Guild - please remember to put any speakers back to the speaker space after use! More and more nice equipment is showing up - lets keep it safe & nice!

A/V guild is kinda new! It needs folks!

Sewing - new machine is kind of same size as one currently in the hackitorium. Gonna need a few people to help go pick it up. likely to sell the one that is there currently. #sewing

New Members/Associate Members[edit | edit source]

What are they? Is anyone trying to become a Member or Associate Member? If not move on. No long discussions.

Financial Report (first Tuesday of month only)[edit | edit source]

Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.

  • Monthly revenue, expenses. Big projects. Big fundraising events. Reserves in bank.
  • Any other details by those participating in handling our financials
  • The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Finances

Spending Needs[edit | edit source]

Engine Hoist

Yes Pls. Help us find one.

Ask The Box Shop. (Side note: HELP THE BOX SHOP! They need a new space by next month!)

Fundraising Update[edit | edit source]

How's it all going

Big C Consensus Items[edit | edit source]

Nobody likes 3 hour meetings, only explain if new people are present. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items

Consensus Items [edit | edit source]

Only for talking about Big C consensus items, small c consensus items should be discussed with people at the space at the time of the change/new item.

Discussion Items[edit | edit source]

(discussion item) 1: [topic][edit | edit source]

From/Raised by: Elan Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?] On topic: Volunteering to mentor local FIRST Robotics teams? How do folks feel about reaching out to offer fabrication support? E.g. high schoolers in the space

Elan: this is something I wanted to do since moving here - Humanmade was a big backer for a lot of the city teams - love First Robotics. Every year, teams need mentors - folks who know *something* - go out every week and teach *something*. Electronics, software, even fundraising. I'm willing to go out and help on my own, but it might be interesting to put NB logo on it. Wanted to check with the community, since these folks are high-schoolers. ALternatively we could say as an engagement mechanism that folks can be mentors and supervise fabrication in the space. This happens during the school year and goes for a few months. Wanted to reach out and gauge interest

Pyco: First robotics was right next door at Open Sauce. We have had high schools do stuff. We dont' have any sort of liability waiver system - there has been discussion about doing this, at least for minors. We have had middle schools and high schools from all over the world.

Mark: If we need to write something on a piece of paper that make parents feel better that's fine

Elan: maybe require a chaperone over 18 years old

Julius - kind of more on board with that diffusion and substained?

elan - resource and teaching platform - keep it open but at the same time - the responsibility,,

Julius - we need a waiver kit - injuries could happen at the space. Risk you run when higher schoolers are around power tools

Objection to under 18, they need parental supervision we have no control over who comes in - 18 and above to come int o Noisebridge - under 18, lawsuits...

Julius - once in a while, some high school comes up but it should not be an ongoing thing where something needs to in place

D: THis may hurt Noisebridge in the long run - a kid who runs in an cuts their finger off. Minor - keep 18 and =above, We do not have infrastructure to keep people from cutting their fingers off. We don't even have infrastructure for people above 18?

We implement someone for someone just coming in off the s

Elle: People come in and with the rotary cutter - could squeeze it wrong and then boom: nerve damage - be careful in the classes but most people who go into sewing room are not in here for the classes.

THis is not a hard push - supporting the fabrication - if you come in with lazer cuts or design - you could mentor them -

Elle: Mentoring them in THEIR location, then have a system by which they come here, with adults, couched in a very secure framework, maybe better.

Elan: If they are coming to visit here - with parents or teacher - some adults - but it is couched in a secure - reasonable engwagement plan. If folks are responsonsible - if their parents approve ( parents signature) we are on the hook for liability. More than happy to offer services for lazer cutting or 3D printing and things. Software on computers.

D: I would suggest. If we are gonna get ppl under 18. I think we should have their approval from a Member.

Julius: all of this is in the abstract of "when you see someone in the space... you know? You don't necessarily know the situation of everyone who comes here...

Pyco - a lot of the tools here, there's been a plan for a long time, that we want a key card access system so that some tool srequire training. would prevent a lot of accidents and worry. You could sign a waiver upon training as well.

We should never ban kids from the space. But kick out unmonitored tool-using kids.

David from this point on i think the convo would be towards building the infra for allowing for that. Develop a parentla pproval system that would enable particular minors in.

Sergio: I don't want to be rude, but just want to make clear about some of my experiences. Ran my own shop, for like 20 years, 100 employees making musical instruments. If your door is open, you are taking risk all the time. This is a very open and democratic institution. Very friendly. But very risky. But not receiving too many ppl under 18. I see a lot of ppl coming here using, but often abusing, tools in the space. We are so lucky that whoever lost half a finger last week is a very nice guy. He could have easily not have been and could have wanted to sue NB. In my opinion we have a make a manual of procedures for ppl coming through the gate. I think people must sign something - "you are tking your own risks" etc.. one of my partners in brazil died from an electrical accident. This is a very very serious opportunity to focus how we must improve and organize procedures. We want to prevent/mitigate any potential big big issue.

So takeway action item: Maybe do mentorship for FIRST kids offsite, and hand off fabrication to responsible adult NB users as necessary.

Stay the course on current policy of the space, which seems to be: no unaccompanied minors at the space.

(discussion item) 2: [topic][edit | edit source]

From/Raised by: Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?] On topic: Open Sauce Post Mortem

Deferred

(discussion item) 3: [topic][edit | edit source]

From/Raised by: Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?] On topic: NB16

Let's setup a separate meeting for this this week!

4: Space utilization (Started with a bit of debate about whether we should pursue more space) Pyco - more space would improve safety by letting us divide usage appropriately. Elle - a largn r space would let us include more people in paid events.

Electronics room not often utilized - could call this a workshop space Pyco - That room was intended for that purpose - projector, screen, lectern. Electronics was supposed to be in the hackitorium

Julius - been thinking about that as well. The space suffers overall being divided up the way it is. Elan - there was mention of buying space. I am extremely concerned by this. Especially because of our governance structure. We become a target for a hostile takeover. Pyco - true, buying space is hard, but that is our long-term goal Jennifer - I have this space that has like 50-60 tables and chairs that i have access to on the weekends. For really cheap per month. If NB were to sponsor classes/activities there? we could make idk, 800 to 1000 dollars in a week? Its a basement space in a secured building. I have access to that for 2-3 hours on the weekend. Could negotiate that. Would want to bring other ppl in from NB to help me with that.

Elan - are we talking bringing equipment and possibly storing things there?

Jennifer - there is an elevator but it is super old. I originally wanted to do team building etc around algorithmic accountability

Pyco - reminds be of what we used to do with sunday streets - we used to have travel kits for doing outside events in other spaces like Maker Faire. Those brought in a decent amount of money when they were properly kitted up. Soldering classes etc. The person who did the Circuit hacking mondays lived in Sac and brought their kit on the train every monday. If we had teachers willing to do events like that we could work out a way to do that. Some people feel uncomfortable coming into the Mission. A place on Market might be accessible to other people

Elan: I share Mark's concern about scaling up quickly. The original vision for Turing Classroom was a great vision. That's something we could do quickly - have a consensus item to convert it back and make it a space that can be used in a versatile way. If we're maxing out with the additional class space the well workshops and teaching are part of our mission so then it makes sense to scale up. I like the matrix dungeon vibe, but committing to something that costs money is kind of scary.

Pyco - the big thing with a lot of noisebridgers - when we were looking at locations, it was required to be within two blocks of a bart station. The closer it is to the ferry building that increases accessibility as well - people can come from Vallejo or Alameda.

Mark - scaling is what we should focus on in this space in the short term - the way to do that is mentor other people and pass on your knowledge of how to host so we can use the space more consistently.

Pyco - if we clear up Turing and start hosting smaller classes that will be a great test of if we can build kits to teach and bring them elsewhere.

Elle + Pyco: space upstairs next door might be 2000-3000/month.

Pyco: we should do a poll of who would be willing to pay for more storage space. That would also let us use this space more efficiently as well. All our event kit could be moved over there and free up all the under-stair space.

Elan: consensus item to rebrand current electronics room as event space

Mark: let's make some standing walls for the part bins and make a bay out of them.

Elan: storage was pitched as a perk of philanthropist level

Julius: we should do a locker audit

Pyco: At the old space a locker was $5 a month

Elle: If we charge for lockers, people will stash things even more in the sewing room etc.

Mark: If they aren't storing things excellenetly, then that stuff is fair game

Pyco: we lost a lot of equipment last year because things that were next to the FT got pushed into limbolandia and disappeared.

Mark: that was probably just because it was close to FT


End of Meeting[edit | edit source]