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Two potential spaces for Noisebridge to move to are currently (2009-07-28) in contention: [[Moving/2169_Mission|2169 Mission]] and [[Moving/410_Clementina|410 Clementina]]. This page summarizes and compares the costs associated with each. | Two potential spaces for Noisebridge to move to are currently (2009-07-28) in contention: [[Moving/2169_Mission|2169 Mission]] and [[Moving/410_Clementina|410 Clementina]]. This page summarizes and compares the costs associated with each. | ||
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Revision as of 01:27, 18 November 2010
>= Overview = Two potential spaces for Noisebridge to move to are currently (2009-07-28) in contention: 2169 Mission and 410 Clementina. This page summarizes and compares the costs associated with each.
Cost Structure
Move-in Costs
- First+Last+Deposit
- build-out budget
- miscellaneous overhead allocation
Recurring Costs
- rent
- insurance
- electrical
- gas (if any)
- internet access
- cleaning service
- supplies (cleaning supplies, toilet paper, etc)
- misc
Current Cash Position
- Noisebridge has (as of 2009-07-28) $21,000 in the bank.
- We have pledges of $13,000 towards moving.
Analysis
For each space,
- What is the up-front cost?
- What is the recurring cost?
- What is the total of startup cost + three months' operating expenses?
- What is the total cost for the first year?
- What is the total cost for the 3 year lease?
- How many members is that again?
2169 Mission
3+3 IG net of all utilities, $3600/mo, no tenant allowance or owner build-out.
Startup Expenses
- $10,800 F+L+D
- $13,000 build-out
- $5000 bathroom remodel
- $2000 misc
- total: $30,800
Recurring Expenses
- $3600 rent
- $350 insurance
- $500 electrical
- $200 internet
- $600 cleaning
- $200 supplies
- $200 misc
- total: $5650, 142 starving hackers or 47 hackers + 47 starving hackers.
- startup + 3 months operating expenses = $47,750
- we are short $14,000 to move in.
410 Clementina
3+3 IG net of all utilities, we're guessing $4000 with some basic owner built improvements. (This rent $ number is not as firm as 2169 because we haven't negotiated to a final deal yet, it might go up or down as we negotiate.)
Startup Expenses
- $12,000 F+L+D
- $10,000 buildout
- $2000 misc
- total: $24,000
Recurring Expenses
- $4000 rent
- $350 insurance
- $500 electrical
- $200 internet
- $600 cleaning
- $200 supplies
- $200 misc
- total: $6050, 152 starving hackers or 50 hackers + 50 starving hackers.
- startup + 3 months operating expenses = $42,150
- we are short $9,000 to move in.
Comparison
2169 Mission: $47,750 move-in goal, $98,600 first year, $234,200 3-year total 410 Clementina: 42,150 move-in goal, $96,600 first year, $241,800 3-year total (don't those numbers make you want to buy real estate?)