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Kevin':People offered to fly out here and accept $4K to train us to do things. They're professionals and what not. | Kevin':People offered to fly out here and accept $4K to train us to do things. They're professionals and what not. | ||
Jarrod: could be useful if they did it for us -- training is less useful | Jarrod: could be useful if they did it for us -- training is less useful | ||
Jim: Foundation Center at Sutter and Stockton -- lots of grant writers there. Local has some value; we're in a rich area and we ought to find local, sympathetic people. $4K to tell us who they think we are is ...errr | Jim: Foundation Center at Sutter and Stockton -- lots of grant writers there. Local has some value; we're in a rich area and we ought to find local, sympathetic people. $4K to tell us who they think we are is ...errr | ||
Kevin: 5% of our bank account to get started. Knothnx | Kevin: 5% of our bank account to get started. Knothnx | ||
Jarrod: We probably wouldn't even take their advice | Jarrod: We probably wouldn't even take their advice | ||
Kevin: If we had $100K's, this would probably be a lot easier, but as it is grant writers will have to learn about who we are. Uless we find someone specific to education/technology | Kevin: If we had $100K's, this would probably be a lot easier, but as it is grant writers will have to learn about who we are. Uless we find someone specific to education/technology | ||
Greg: Foundation center x2 They have different programs that might be helpful in this area. They pay money to maintain a database of organizations that received grants | Greg: Foundation center x2 They have different programs that might be helpful in this area. They pay money to maintain a database of organizations that received grants | ||
Kevin: They offer seminars/webinars on writing grant proposals | Kevin: They offer seminars/webinars on writing grant proposals | ||
Jim: Agenda item: we learn how to do this stuff | Jim: Agenda item: we learn how to do this stuff | ||
Kevin: Outsourcing might make sense, given the effort on this front to date. Overcoming the learning curve has slowed us down | Kevin: Outsourcing might make sense, given the effort on this front to date. Overcoming the learning curve has slowed us down | ||
Jim: Needs ass-kicking for optimal cooperation | Jim: Needs ass-kicking for optimal cooperation | ||
Kevin: People charge a lot of money for kicking ass in this town | Kevin: People charge a lot of money for kicking ass in this town | ||
Kevin': Originally presented the possibility of hiring consultants to help us | Kevin': Originally presented the possibility of hiring consultants to help us | ||
Silver: Big companies might be generous to places like this. I'm working on a project and I've had some success reaching out to companies. Google, Apple, ...? Noisebridge has a lot to offer -- this space got me into tech. Generates change in communities. Could make a strong case for Noisebridge to one of these companies | Silver: Big companies might be generous to places like this. I'm working on a project and I've had some success reaching out to companies. Google, Apple, ...? Noisebridge has a lot to offer -- this space got me into tech. Generates change in communities. Could make a strong case for Noisebridge to one of these companies | ||
Jim: What does it mean to go to these companies? How do we find the right companies and identify the right people in those companies? | Jim: What does it mean to go to these companies? How do we find the right companies and identify the right people in those companies? | ||
Silver: Presenting the hackerspace to them. They might not know about this place and the resources it offers. We just need the right people to approach them | Silver: Presenting the hackerspace to them. They might not know about this place and the resources it offers. We just need the right people to approach them | ||
Nathan: We need to be able to expressing what/who we are, to companies, generally wealthy people | Nathan: We need to be able to expressing what/who we are, to companies, generally wealthy people | ||
Silver: I am super down to do this kind of stuff, but I would like to do this with someone else. I have puppy eyes | Silver: I am super down to do this kind of stuff, but I would like to do this with someone else. I have puppy eyes | ||
Kevin': Anyone feel plugged into the fundraising effort? Someone seems to be working on copy(?) | Kevin': Anyone feel plugged into the fundraising effort? Someone seems to be working on copy(?) | ||
Nathan: I can contribute photo/video work. I think we should create a gofundme campaign. We should be able to show people what we are in 2-3 minutes. People with a lot of money rarely have a lot of time | Nathan: I can contribute photo/video work. I think we should create a gofundme campaign. We should be able to show people what we are in 2-3 minutes. People with a lot of money rarely have a lot of time | ||
Kevin: Do we have a gofundme? | Kevin: Do we have a gofundme? | ||
Kevin': We have a Patreon | Kevin': We have a Patreon | ||
Kevin: Naomi has been working on it | Kevin: Naomi has been working on it | ||
Kevin': There is a fundraising channel. Would be empowering to us all to get involved with these discussions | Kevin': There is a fundraising channel. Would be empowering to us all to get involved with these discussions | ||
Alex: It would be really useful to have groups that work independently, then come to gether, to compare result, to motivate each other. That's not happening now, and it's SAD. | Alex: It would be really useful to have groups that work independently, then come to gether, to compare result, to motivate each other. That's not happening now, and it's SAD. | ||
Alex: Is there an entrypoint for people, task forces they can contribute to | Alex: Is there an entrypoint for people, task forces they can contribute to | ||
Nathan: It would be valuable to show people "here are the teams working on this" | Nathan: It would be valuable to show people "here are the teams working on this" | ||
Silver: This being an anarchist space, that goes to show that people care enough about it to keep it around. #1 in the USA! Rich people are really generous | Silver: This being an anarchist space, that goes to show that people care enough about it to keep it around. #1 in the USA! Rich people are really generous | ||
Asya: #poverty There are billions in poverty. Another team can choose to do events. We could have items we sell to the public to fundraise. Selling as in donation | Asya: #poverty There are billions in poverty. Another team can choose to do events. We could have items we sell to the public to fundraise. Selling as in donation | ||
Jim: Good track. Testimonials are powerful. Who has benefitted already? What have we made/done? | Jim: Good track. Testimonials are powerful. Who has benefitted already? What have we made/done? | ||
Nathan: We have a history at Maker Faire every year. That's one instance of publicity | Nathan: We have a history at Maker Faire every year. That's one instance of publicity | ||
Jarrod: the information you get by going there (the grant place) in person is much better than the information you get online | Jarrod: the information you get by going there (the grant place) in person is much better than the information you get online | ||
Kevin: I like the idea of finding out where other similar organizations get funds | Kevin: I like the idea of finding out where other similar organizations get funds | ||
Alex Peake: Building a Noisebridge-specific game. Need to build specific activities/skills you can learn here. Also need an overarching narrative. We need content. Game would be free but there would be opportunities for monetization. We need to make video-type content showcasing Noisebridge | Alex Peake: Building a Noisebridge-specific game. Need to build specific activities/skills you can learn here. Also need an overarching narrative. We need content. Game would be free but there would be opportunities for monetization. We need to make video-type content showcasing Noisebridge | ||
Nathan: First person, 3-minute documentary. Someone walks in off the street and tours the space | Nathan: First person, 3-minute documentary. Someone walks in off the street and tours the space | ||
Revision as of 14:54, 14 March 2018
Meeting Notes 2018 03 13
Riseup pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/nb-new-space
Next Meeting: March 20, 2018 at 19:00
In Attendence
- Kevin
- Jim
- Kevin'
- Jarrod
- AlexAlex
- Nathan
- Greg
- Clarissa
- Asya
- Alex Peake
- Silver
Overview
- Messaging & fundraising
- Lease space search update
- $NBSP; subgroups
- Co-tenancy update
- Accessibility requirements
Messaging & fundraising
Kevin':People offered to fly out here and accept $4K to train us to do things. They're professionals and what not.
Jarrod: could be useful if they did it for us -- training is less useful
Jim: Foundation Center at Sutter and Stockton -- lots of grant writers there. Local has some value; we're in a rich area and we ought to find local, sympathetic people. $4K to tell us who they think we are is ...errr
Kevin: 5% of our bank account to get started. Knothnx
Jarrod: We probably wouldn't even take their advice
Kevin: If we had $100K's, this would probably be a lot easier, but as it is grant writers will have to learn about who we are. Uless we find someone specific to education/technology
Greg: Foundation center x2 They have different programs that might be helpful in this area. They pay money to maintain a database of organizations that received grants
Kevin: They offer seminars/webinars on writing grant proposals
Jim: Agenda item: we learn how to do this stuff
Kevin: Outsourcing might make sense, given the effort on this front to date. Overcoming the learning curve has slowed us down
Jim: Needs ass-kicking for optimal cooperation
Kevin: People charge a lot of money for kicking ass in this town
Kevin': Originally presented the possibility of hiring consultants to help us
Silver: Big companies might be generous to places like this. I'm working on a project and I've had some success reaching out to companies. Google, Apple, ...? Noisebridge has a lot to offer -- this space got me into tech. Generates change in communities. Could make a strong case for Noisebridge to one of these companies
Jim: What does it mean to go to these companies? How do we find the right companies and identify the right people in those companies?
Silver: Presenting the hackerspace to them. They might not know about this place and the resources it offers. We just need the right people to approach them
Nathan: We need to be able to expressing what/who we are, to companies, generally wealthy people
Silver: I am super down to do this kind of stuff, but I would like to do this with someone else. I have puppy eyes
Kevin': Anyone feel plugged into the fundraising effort? Someone seems to be working on copy(?)
Nathan: I can contribute photo/video work. I think we should create a gofundme campaign. We should be able to show people what we are in 2-3 minutes. People with a lot of money rarely have a lot of time
Kevin: Do we have a gofundme?
Kevin': We have a Patreon
Kevin: Naomi has been working on it
Kevin': There is a fundraising channel. Would be empowering to us all to get involved with these discussions
Alex: It would be really useful to have groups that work independently, then come to gether, to compare result, to motivate each other. That's not happening now, and it's SAD.
Alex: Is there an entrypoint for people, task forces they can contribute to
Nathan: It would be valuable to show people "here are the teams working on this"
Silver: This being an anarchist space, that goes to show that people care enough about it to keep it around. #1 in the USA! Rich people are really generous
Asya: #poverty There are billions in poverty. Another team can choose to do events. We could have items we sell to the public to fundraise. Selling as in donation
Jim: Good track. Testimonials are powerful. Who has benefitted already? What have we made/done?
Nathan: We have a history at Maker Faire every year. That's one instance of publicity
Jarrod: the information you get by going there (the grant place) in person is much better than the information you get online
Kevin: I like the idea of finding out where other similar organizations get funds
Alex Peake: Building a Noisebridge-specific game. Need to build specific activities/skills you can learn here. Also need an overarching narrative. We need content. Game would be free but there would be opportunities for monetization. We need to make video-type content showcasing Noisebridge
Nathan: First person, 3-minute documentary. Someone walks in off the street and tours the space
Takeaway: Let's create some task force groups. Let's pin announcement of new-space subgroups in the new-space channel
$NBSP; subgroups
It might be helpful to have focused groups for the various aspects of the Noisebridge Space Program which can run in parallel. Each subgroup should have a point-person, a bottom-liner. Each group should be able to provide updates at the weekly $NBSP; meetings. It may be helpful to create a channel on Slack in order to focus communication on said topics.
Weekly NBSP Meeting
- Kevin'
Let's go to Google/Apple/Other big companies
- Silver - another female bottom-liner? Naomi?
Grants team
- Asya - Jarrod
Standalone Noisebridge Game
- Alex Peake - Need content people to make content
Videography/Photography group
- *Looking for a bottom-liner for this group* - Nathan - Scotty? - Documentation team to help people who've made things to document their work
Spacewalkers
- Kevin
Live Streaming Arcade Cabinet group
- Mark - PLAY GAMES TO SAVE NOISEBRIDGE! - Would be nice to get fundraising help and outreach to video game watchers - Join #nbgamingarchivists channel
Lease space search update
Kevin: 1504 Bryant, Second Floor. 10,000sqft property on Bryant. Divisible into two spaces. Accessible in theory, though there is a pinch point that may not be wide enough for chair access. One bathroom is not ADA. Owner is interested in building two accessible bathrooms on the second floor. There's typically a broker representing the building owner, but sometimes there's a tenant owner. They're helpful in negotiating a better deal. We've been working with Blake from Hello Office on this and looping him in on our search.
1144 Howard St. 8-9,000sqft. Two floors. Building broker is weird. $1.67sqft/mo, which falls into our range. Owner wants to lease the whole thing for $15,000. We've spoken with 2-3 other organizations who might be interested in co-tenant'ing. That hasn't really worked out well. Partly because we don't really have everything together internally.
Personally I think we should go with something that's within our budget. We should focus on affordability because affordable spaces are very few and far between right now. Used to work in this space and right now we're in a very low vacancy market (< 1% estimated). There are probably only 5-10 buildings on the market like this. We should look at opporunities based on what we can afford. Might be able to get a better deal through our tenant broker and/or co-tenants.
132 Missouri at 17th. Between Mission and Dogpatch; Potrero. 6,000sqft. $1.35sqft/mo Industrial. Pay for utilities on our own. That's preferable. Excitement. 30 min walk from BART
36-40 Shotwell at 14th. It's a hut. It has a roof. It's not cheap. $2+sqft/mo. Maybe $2.50
Jim: interested in electrical issues
Kevin: That's my update
Kevin': What is your view on affordability today, sans fundraising effort
Kevin: Looks like we can afford $7,000'ish, though maybe higher if we continue getting more money as we have been recently. $90,000 in the bank, though $30,000 of that is earmarked for TOR. We need $40-50,000 to move in, plus moving expenses (trucks, movers, etc.)
Alex Peake: I have a U-Haul truck
Kevin': We have bodies, if nothing else
Kevin: Only mention it because someone was estimating that we need $1/4M to move, though maybe that had to do with making a down payment. Worst case scenario, we find a business to lease ASAP. We only have 4 months left. We need a month of overlap at least
Jim: We might want to rent a storage space temporarily
Kevin: Spoke with John about what a Noisebridge graceful shutdown would look like. Basically going into storage, underground, etc. So far the current owner gives no shits about us. We need to respect that trendline
Jim: Before there was building Noisebridge, there was coffee house Noisebridge
Kevin': Anyone see any new properties?
Kevin': Anyone want to do a tour?
Kevin: Let's see if it's still available
Alex Peake: I have a friend who used to hang out here a lot, Paul, and he's a superstar fundraising/grant writing person. I will get in touch with him. I will put him in touch with the grant team
Jarrod: Shall we use the new-space channel for coordination?
Asya: Grant writing should have its own channel
Kevin: There's a fundraising channel
Asya: Can there be a grant writing channel/tag?
Kevin: Let's put it in the fundraising channel
Kevin: I think there are two pieces missing from our process. 1) we need more people to check out buildings/spaces
Silver: Noisy in the new-space channel. Maybe we can make a channel specifically for checking out spaces
Jarrod: We can pin things to the sidebar. Highlighted/pinned items(?)
Kevin: I don't have a good sense for who's down to look at buildings. Not sure if the people who were checking out buildings are still involved(?) We need to make a letter of intent. Ruth put one together for 1144 Howard. Formal non-binding communication expressing interest
Greg: How is the timing on this going to work? How long will it take to sign on? Will we be paying for overlapping months?
Kevin': We've discussed timelines and that we'll need to move quickly. We have a process for how this decision can be made quickly. Part of the letter of intent is negotiating whether or not we'll get the first X months free. We need to put something together that looks right to brokers
Kevin: I need to stop expecting more people to jump in and get involved. People will probably get more excited when more is happening. We need at least a month of overlap to move Noisebridge over, and we should probably do that before August. That depends on what we can negotiate. It's a matter of whether or not they're going to wait for us. Depends on whether or not we'll be able to break the current lease
Kevin': We need to have a plan to synchronize these things
Silver: Who is the board? Are they at this meeting? Are they behind the scenes?
Kevin': Trent and Patrick are long-standing members of the community. More responsibility than power
Kevin: Board was elected this year under the banner that this board will do nothing
Kevin': We've specified that the treasurer, president, secretary, etc. will decide
Jim: This is to conform to legal expectations. They are the fall guys
Kevin': These titles hold no significance. They can sign agreements. They are a legal interface. They act based on the consensus of the group
Kevin: My faith meter is low for better oranization
Jim: Discussion list might help
Kevin: With an interest in keeping the process private, we've made a non-public list for these discussions (to avoid trolls, competing brokers, etc.)
Kevin': Noisebridge has many known and unknown adversaries
Jarrod: Hillary Ronen, district supervisor, coming to do something here tomorrow morning at 0915
Asya: Hillary begins the process of something. It's a huge process
Kevin: It's a process we don't have much time for. We met on Friday with MEDA SF. They think our time line is too short. They acquire disressed properties and redevelop them. They're building a large mixed-use property at the moment. They offer other service which might help us, such as connecting us with other organizations. For instance loan organizations. In the short term NCCLA could help us to look good to a potential land lord. Presentation matters a lot. Having a CPA look at our books could be very helpful for optics. Things like that
Jarrod: Did they happen to say what would make the time line better? Would there be a good reason to put us into storage and wait?
Kevin: Reps from MEDA SF is going to be here to tour Noisebridge on Friday at 12:00. Would be good to have a bunch of people here
Jarrod: Propose that we start a calendar on the new space wiki page
Kevin: How about instead of a wiki, which it can be hard to find things on, could we have a Trello board for NBSP?
Jarrod: We have a Trello board since December. There is a calendar plugin. Might be overkill. Wiki for now, can optimize later. Everything should be in one place (this page)
Kevin: Another suggestion: to have mirroring between the Slack channel and the wiki page
Jarrod: Slack channel needs curation
Kevin: I hardly notice pinned items because they aren't immediately visible
Alex: Bottom-liners, point-people for these sub-groups?
Kevin: Agreed. Someone needs to care enough. Really flat organizations are hard
Co-tenancy update
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Accessibility requirements
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