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As a part of one of the groups this page targets, I think this is dumb. Lists of attributes to not discriminate against are for companies and governments, not collectives like Noisebridge. It's impossible to make the list complete, inevitably suggesting that we exclude unlisted groups that are, in fact, welcome. It also suggests there's a specific non-discrimination rule when most discrimination is really just a form of not being excellent. I didn't feel unwelcome in the space before. Publishing this list just reminds me of the politicization of this sort of issue outside of Noisebridge, which I'd rather avoid. Especially annoying is the line about dogs, which seems very self-serving given the author. It also suggests that welcoming people and their pets are of approximately equal importance. --[[Special:Contributions/173.164.238.54|173.164.238.54]] 02:45, 21 February 2011 (UTC) | As a part of one of the groups this page targets, I think this is dumb. Lists of attributes to not discriminate against are for companies and governments, not collectives like Noisebridge. It's impossible to make the list complete, inevitably suggesting that we exclude unlisted groups that are, in fact, welcome. It also suggests there's a specific non-discrimination rule when most discrimination is really just a form of not being excellent. I didn't feel unwelcome in the space before. Publishing this list just reminds me of the politicization of this sort of issue outside of Noisebridge, which I'd rather avoid. Especially annoying is the line about dogs, which seems very self-serving given the author. It also suggests that welcoming people and their pets are of approximately equal importance. --[[Special:Contributions/173.164.238.54|173.164.238.54]] 02:45, 21 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
* As a white male, I feel this page necessary given the percent of white males that routinely occupy our physical space. The "hackerspaces" Wikipedia article itself alludes to a previous dispute about whether hackerspaces are "inclusive" or "exclusive". The final consensus was hackerspaces are generally inclusive. The Diversity page is a direct attempt at specifically making everybody feel welcome at Noisebridge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Citizenkeys]] ([[User talk:Citizenkeys|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Citizenkeys|contribs]]) | * As a white male, I feel this page necessary given the percent of white males that routinely occupy our physical space. The "hackerspaces" Wikipedia article itself alludes to a previous dispute about whether hackerspaces are "inclusive" or "exclusive". The final consensus was hackerspaces are generally inclusive. The Diversity page is a direct attempt at specifically making everybody feel welcome at Noisebridge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Citizenkeys]] ([[User talk:Citizenkeys|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Citizenkeys|contribs]]) | ||
** Adding an "other" category does not make people who fall under it feel welcome. It actually says, "You're so marginal, we're not even including you on the list of marginalized groups we've prepared." What Wikipedia says about general hackerspace disputes is irrelevant to the Noisebridge wiki. Also, the dumb line about your dog is still obnoxiously cute or offensive; take your pick. --[[Special:Contributions/69.80.98.142|69.80.98.142]] 03:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC) | ** Adding an "other" category does not make people who fall under it feel welcome. It actually says, "You're so marginal, we're not even including you on the list of marginalized groups we've prepared." What Wikipedia says about general hackerspace disputes is irrelevant to the Noisebridge wiki. Also, the dumb line about your dog is still obnoxiously cute or offensive; take your pick. --[[Special:Contributions/69.80.98.142|69.80.98.142]] 03:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC) | ||