Talk:Keycode Access

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Hi,
  
=== Meeting 2012-02-09 ===
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Now that I've got associate membership status who should I talk to about getting a door access code?  Wednesday night night I asked more than ten people individually and in groups for help and advice, and didn't really get anywhere.  
So social engineering this evening concentrated on trying to define the problem
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we've been discussing on nb-discuss these past few aeons, listed the
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challenges, listed the aspects of Noisebridge we wanted to preserve, and then
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went through the classes of proposed solutions, and how much we liked them.
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What was the winner? The proposal we liked the most was putting into place a
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So far I have always been able to get into the space by buzzing, but I'd feel more like a "member" with an access code. So any help would be excellent.
keycode system (probably Kelly's hot-tub matrix), but not losing the key and
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the buzzer for now -- and indeed a general encouragement to create as many
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interesting ways of getting into the place as possible. Once we see how those
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go as a temporary plan and see what the uptake is, the goal would be to turn
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off the buzzer, but that would only be after more discussion and
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experimentation.
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I'll pass over to Kelly who I think is going to lead this as a spun-off project.
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Gregory Dillon
 
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I'm not around for soceng next week, so feel free to use that meeting for this,
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though I think it's big enough to spin out on its own.
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==== The problem space ====
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We seem to be worried about:
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* Crazy people who come up and want to shoot everyone
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* Burglars with swag bags
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* Increased entropy in general (messiness, slacking instead of hacking)
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* The public image of Noisebridge as not safe and a bit skeevy
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* Some sort of uncool disaster
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Challenges to any solution
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* We are structure minimalists
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* No clear dividing line between good crazy and bad crazy
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* "Noisebridge is self-trolling and games ours own solutions"
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* Hard to disseminate knowledge
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* Hard to to enforce rules
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==== Proposed solutions ====
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(Pluses and minuses are strawpoll votes, D = doacratically doable, C = would require consensus in meeting)
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D Improving self-policing through education ++++--
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(ie having more direct explanation and role-playing of throwing people out, to get over our natural reticence to do so)
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C A blanket access fee ++------
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(ie $10 to get in the place)
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D Always locking the top door ++-
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(people seemed to think this was okay in combination with something else)
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D Access code as supplementary system ++++++++-
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(Kelly's system was discussed in detail, but this applied to any access system.)
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C Access code as only system ++------
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(We really didn't want to depend on a high-tech system. Wanted the keys to stay)
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C Cutting the buzzer +++----
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(Maybe in the future, once another access system had emerged.)
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C Closing down at night ++----
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(That's to say, NB ends at 11PM say)
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C Members only at night ++++-
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C Cellphone entry only +----
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(Ie some sort of phone-door-opening triangle)
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D Temporary versions of all above +++++
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(Lots of support for trying stuff out, seeing what sticks)
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D Concentrating on individual +++++
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(Some support for working on preventing certain people, rather than just raising bar on access)
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C Greylists/Blacklists ++++
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(Some support for raising enforcement of Noisebridge's somewhat moribund greylits/blacklist proposal)
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Latest revision as of 00:50, 5 December 2013

Hi,

Now that I've got associate membership status who should I talk to about getting a door access code? Wednesday night night I asked more than ten people individually and in groups for help and advice, and didn't really get anywhere.

So far I have always been able to get into the space by buzzing, but I'd feel more like a "member" with an access code. So any help would be excellent.

Gregory Dillon

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