[Noisebridge-board] Re: Making Decisions and then backing out after concensus has been reached (was Re: Ick)

Noah Balmer noahbalmer at gmail.com
Wed Oct 1 12:57:11 PDT 2008


I thought I had been heard by a number of people and I thought David was
among them. Apparently I was mistaken.

However, if that was a consensus, I'm the king of france.  A bunch of people
shouting until someone shouts louder that it's time to move on is not
consensus.

A number of people, including lawyers in the field of non-profit law, tell
me that the liability situation changes with incorporation and insurance.
What are your grounds for disagreement?

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net>wrote:

> Noah Balmer wrote:
> > Last night I said I was not comfortable with handing keys out to everyo=
ne
> > before our paperwork was done.  I  tried to be heard over a cacophanous
> > shouting match and was apparently unsuccessful.  I thought I'd been hea=
rd
> > but I guess I wasn't.  The topic was shouted down and we moved on in
> spite
> > of my objections.  I can't think of what else I should have done without
> > just trying to yell louder.
> >
>
> I think that this is unfair. Did you specifically tell the secretary of
> the meeting about your strong feelings? Did you confirm that your voice
> of dissent had been heard? If it wasn't heard (as was clearly the case
> with the board members), it seems unreasonable to blame this on the noise.
>
> > Anyway, I stand with Rachel on this one.  As soon as Noisebridge exists
> and
> > has it's name on the lease, go nuts with keys if you want.  Until then,
> no.
> >
>
> The legal risk doesn't change. You're on the board. It's the same issue,
> just simply a single round of indirection later. The lease may infact
> require N member signatures anyway.
>
> Best,
> Jake
>
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