[Build] state of construction (storage bins)

jim jim at well.com
Sun Jul 4 15:10:36 PDT 2010


   (not that you asked...) my opinion is let's do 
it, and let's do it with some advance planning. 

   i like the idea of being able to expand and 
contract a work area so's to allow more work 
areas. as patton is reputed to have said, fixed 
fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of 
<i forget just who, but i took the point>. 
   what about a couple of rolling carts on which 
to put power tools and a couple more rolling 
carts on which to hammer, bang, and crash? 
   use case: roll a cart to where a power tool 
is stored and slide the power tool off its 
shelf onto the cart (same level), grab another 
cart on which to work, roll by the consumables, 
do yo' thing, then put things back. 
   buy the idea and our shop has a wall where 
tools are, another wall where empty rolling 
racks are, consumables are probably on the 
walls above the cart surfaces...; users grab a 
cart for a tool and a cart for the work and 
roll off to the dirty-making spot.... 



On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 14:06 -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:

> I've talked to a number of people about moving the shop and have  
> gotten responses ranging from 'yes!' to 'enh'. Nobody seemed against  
> it as long as they didn't have to do the work. I'm willing to do the  
> work on it -- well I can't do it all myself obviously but I'll do what  
> I can.
> 
> Ben what is your opinion after a few days of letting it sit?
> 
> -Rachel
> 
> On Jul 4, 2010, at 9:06, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> >   i agree that bin boxes are probably better
> > than the little drawers, though a mix might be
> > right.
> >   something easy, cheap, and pretty effective
> > is a shallow shelf on which are boxes and
> > jars of screws, nails....
> >   "shallow" might mean not very high and the
> > shelf pulls out or it might mean not very
> > deep and not very high, in which case the
> > shelf does not pull out.
> >
> >   where in the matfablab is a good place for
> > screws, nails...?
> >
> >   and how are we doing with the idea of
> > moving the matfablab east? might be good to
> > defer a lot of stuff until after that's
> > resolved: i.e. let's resolve it. i'm mildly
> > for it--michael kan's note about air flow is
> > something of a convincer to me, reinforced
> > by the observation that shop tool noise at
> > the east end might help make the west end
> > more quiet.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 08:55 -0700, Ben Kochie wrote:
> >> I think the Bin-Box systems are probably better for the shop.
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.mcmaster.com/#4666t84/=7td89e
> >>
> >> -ben
> >>
> >>  "UNIX is user-friendly, it's just picky about its friends."
> >>
> >> On Sat, 3 Jul 2010, John Magolske wrote:
> >>
> >>> * Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net> [100703 19:32]:
> >>>> Do you prefer bins like the ones that are there, or fishing  
> >>>> organizer
> >>>> style boxes with compartments?
> >>>>
> >>>> Personally if we could get screws and such into an organizer  
> >>>> setup with
> >>>> smaller bins it would be good.  I prefer the fishing/sewing  
> >>>> organizers
> >>>> that have compartments on two sides and flip open.  If anyone  
> >>>> knows a
> >>>> good place to pick that kind of thing up I could go shopping for  
> >>>> them.
> >>>
> >>> The part bin cabinets listed below are what I'd suggest. They
> >>> all have the same external dimensions, but with different drawer
> >>> configurations. Personally, I find the 24 large-drawer and the 64
> >>> small-drawer versions are most useful. I have the combo 44-drawer
> >>> version on my desk at work, but mostly use the larger drawers and  
> >>> wish
> >>> I got the 24-drawer version instead. These would be nice attached to
> >>> the wall (don't stick out too far). I like the idea of settling on
> >>> one particular form factor so they can be tiled across a wall in a
> >>> modular, space-efficient, non-chaotic manner... and these seem to
> >>> have a reasonable cost/benefit ratio IMO.
> >>>
> >>>> From McMaster:
> >>>
> >>> 9619T71
> >>> Plastic c 24 Drawers,
> >>> 20" W X 15-13/16" H X 6-3/8" D, Lt Gray
> >>> 24 Drawers @ 4 3/8" x 2" x 5 1/4"
> >>> In stock at $29.64 Each
> >>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#9619t71/=3uhja8
> >>>
> >>> 9619T75
> >>> Plastic Small-Parts Drawer Cabinet 44 Drawers,
> >>> 20" W X 15-13/16" H X 6-3/8" D, Lt Gray
> >>> 32 Drawers @ 2 1/8" x 1 1/2" x 5 1/4"
> >>> 12 Drawers @ 4 3/8" x 2" x 5 1/4"
> >>> In stock at $28.09 Each
> >>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#9619t75/=3uhjh3
> >>>
> >>> 9619T77
> >>> Plastic Small-Parts Drawer Cabinet 64 Drawers,
> >>> 20" W X 15-13/16" H X 6-3/8" D, Lt Gray
> >>> 64 Drawers @ 2 1/8" x 1 1/2" x 5 1/4"
> >>> In stock at $31.19 Each
> >>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#9619t77/=3uhhxi
> >>>
> >>> If anyone's up for it I'd be willing to go halves/thirds/fourths/ 
> >>> etc.
> >>> on getting 2/3/4/etc of these. Maybe two 24's & one 64 to start  
> >>> with?
> >>>
> >>> When ordering from McMaster, an order placed by 5pm typically  
> >>> arrives
> >>> by next business day afternoon (works better if you communicate that
> >>> we're a bus/org, personal orders can take 2 days). I guess Weds  
> >>> would
> >>> be the earliest we could get these if we so chose...and we'd need a
> >>> reliable receiving person & address.
> >>>
> >>> The page Jim linked looks interesting too. Stackable larger bins  
> >>> would
> >>> be nice. The nesting bins we currently have (donated by dpc, thx)
> >>> could be a part of the solution...one thought was to mount to a wall
> >>> some sort of rail that hooks into the top rear grooves of these bins
> >>> and a ledge/shelf to support the bottoms.
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- 
> >>> John Magolske
> >>> http://B79.net/contact
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