[Build] Sunday Workday

Ben Kochie ben at nerp.net
Sat Jul 24 11:28:04 PDT 2010


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On Fri, 23 Jul 2010, Max Rosenblum wrote:

> I'll be there!
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>       Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:19:40 +0100
>       From: Max Rosenblum <capnmax at gmail.com>
>       Subject: Re: [Build] Build Digest, Vol 10, Issue 10
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>       Hey All,
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>       I'm new to the space but have experience drywalling, tiling and
>       plumbing...And boatbuilding?  I'd be pleased to dive in and help finish up
>       the bathroom in any way you think useful.  I'm traveling back to S.F. right
>       now and have some time next week.  Is there a regular build meeting or is
>       the listserv it?
>
>       Best,
>
>       Max
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>       On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:00 PM, <build-request at lists.noisebridge.net>wrote:
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>       > Today's Topics:
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>       >   1. the back build up/bathroom project - reopening Thursday 5 pm
>       >      and       Sunday 1 pm (algoldor at frantisekapfelbeck.org)
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>       > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:58:03 -0500
>       > From: algoldor at frantisekapfelbeck.org
>       > Subject: [Build] the back build up/bathroom project - reopening
>       >        Thursday 5      pm and  Sunday 1 pm
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>       > HI to All!
>       > The Bathroom project.
>       > Scott has made it today, checking the situation. He may be able to
>       > come tomorrow (Thursday) around 5 pm and it would be great if someone
>       > could be with him and help him! I'm out and Raquel is busy too,
>       > unfortunately.
>       >
>       > However the big day is going to be Sunday. We will have lunch at 1 pm
>       > and after that we will start to rock and roll working under Scott
>       > supervision. I'll take care about drinks and food in advance so we are
>       > not hungry and dry!
>       >
>       > I hope to see as many of you as possible, there is a plenty of work
>       > which can be done in the Church classroom and in the Tea room too, so
>       > do not worry that your abilities and time will be wasted! Please let
>       > me know by email if you can make it.
>       >
>       > See you all soon,
>       >
>       > Sincerely,
>       >
>       > Frantisek
>       >
>       >
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>       Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:53:40 -0700
>       From: jim <jim at well.com>
>       Subject: Re: [Build] Build Digest, Vol 10, Issue 10
>       To: Max Rosenblum <capnmax at gmail.com>
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>
>         the guiding light seems to be a torch that's passed.
>       frantisek seems the current holder. i believe frantisek
>       will be around the space today (thursday) and has some
>       plans to do something this weekend, too.
>         i'm interested in the build-out things, too.
>         i've mainly done electrical work and helped some
>       with floors and sheetrock and painting.
>
>         seems to me the most important consideration is to
>       get and keep several people involved--appeal regularly
>       to get those who want to help as well as those who want
>       to learn something of the trades.
>
>         as i understand the state of things, finishing the
>       raw plumbing is the first thing to do:
>         this means undoing a few connections in the water
>       supply (copper pipe) and replacing fittings with those
>       that let us extend water supply to the shower, washing
>       machine location, and the darkroom, and possibly one
>       or two other things.
>         it also means finishing the drains and vents, don't
>       forget the drain from the darkroom, which has to join
>       the drain from the shower pan, and make sure the vent
>       run near the washer-drier location is completed
>       (probably run above to the main stack, which means
>       cut out a portion of the stack and replace it with a
>       hub that's got a two-inch input).
>         scott and zedd can confirm and correct my
>       description.
>
>         NOTE: the area above this set of rooms, i believe,
>       is meant for storage. i would remove the old plaster
>       up there where necessary and fir out areas where lathe
>       is missing, then rock over plaster where it's been
>       left intact and lathe where plaster's removed.
>       (properly, seems to me, we should remove all plaster
>       and all lathe and put rock up on the bare studs, but
>       i wouldn't bother up there.)
>         I would add some spacers between the joists above
>       the ceiling and then put plywood on top of the
>       joists and shellac the plywood (shellac is a reasonably
>       good finish, dries real fast, can be painted later...).
>
>         there are a few things that can be done before the
>       raw plumbing is completed, though not many:
>         remove any remaining old plaster, make a decision
>       about removing lathe before putting on sheetrock.
>         put sheetrock up over areas where raw plumbing is
>       completed or not to be installed.
>
>         after raw plumbing is done (copper is stubbed out
>       where needed, drain and vent pipes are in place), then
>       finish putting up the sheetrock and tape and mud.
>         NOTE: there's a plan to put a short wall up to
>       protect the water heater from the shower.
>         NOTE: where electricity is in the walls, let it be.
>       for any other electrical needs, plan them to be on the
>       surface, not in the walls (it's a hacker space, not a
>       rental apartment for mom and dad; pipes on the surface
>       are much more easily extended or modified or repaired).
>       please use black wires for receptacles and red wires
>       for lights and appliances (and don't connect a black
>       wire between a receptacle and a red supply wire or
>       conversely--colors should be consistent from device
>       to sub-panel).
>         it may be smart to prime and paint the rock at this
>       point--i'd use pva primer and alkyd enamel (oil enamel
>       resists water much better than water-based enamel).
>
>         after sheet rock is up (and painted):
>         extend any needed electrical runs, including pipes,
>       boxes, wires, devices...,
>         put in floor tiles and shower pan.
>
>         after floor tiles are in, install sinks and faucets
>       (don't forget the darkroom sink and faucets), toilet,
>       shower stall, washer and drier...
>         also install doors and any cabinets and shelves.
>         install any trim (door casings...).
>
>         finish up any painting.
> 
> 
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>       On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 20:19 +0100, Max Rosenblum wrote:
>       > Hey All,
>       >
>       >
>       > I'm new to the space but have experience drywalling, tiling and
>       > plumbing...And boatbuilding?  I'd be pleased to dive in and help
>       > finish up the bathroom in any way you think useful.  I'm traveling
>       > back to S.F. right now and have some time next week.  Is there a
>       > regular build meeting or is the listserv it?
>       >
>       >
>       > Best,
>       >
>       >
>       > Max
>       >
>       > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:00 PM, <build-request at lists.noisebridge.net>
>       > wrote:
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>       >         Today's Topics:
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>       >           1. the back build up/bathroom project - reopening Thursday 5
>       >         pm
>       >              and       Sunday 1 pm (algoldor at frantisekapfelbeck.org)
>       >
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>       >         Message: 1
>       >         Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:58:03 -0500
>       >         From: algoldor at frantisekapfelbeck.org
>       >         Subject: [Build] the back build up/bathroom project -
>       >         reopening
>       >                Thursday 5      pm and  Sunday 1 pm
>       >         To: build at lists.noisebridge.net
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>       >         HI to All!
>       >         The Bathroom project.
>       >         Scott has made it today, checking the situation. He may be
>       >         able to
>       >         come tomorrow (Thursday) around 5 pm and it would be great if
>       >         someone
>       >         could be with him and help him! I'm out and Raquel is busy
>       >         too,
>       >         unfortunately.
>       >
>       >         However the big day is going to be Sunday. We will have lunch
>       >         at 1 pm
>       >         and after that we will start to rock and roll working under
>       >         Scott
>       >         supervision. I'll take care about drinks and food in advance
>       >         so we are
>       >         not hungry and dry!
>       >
>       >         I hope to see as many of you as possible, there is a plenty of
>       >         work
>       >         which can be done in the Church classroom and in the Tea room
>       >         too, so
>       >         do not worry that your abilities and time will be wasted!
>       >         Please let
>       >         me know by email if you can make it.
>       >
>       >         See you all soon,
>       >
>       >         Sincerely,
>       >
>       >         Frantisek
>       >
>       >
>       >
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