[Build] [Noisebridge-discuss] Wall Status -- choice of paint color: white-white is best

miloh froggytoad at gmail.com
Mon Nov 28 14:26:31 PST 2011


Theres a totally different paper made of mesh, it isnt sandpaper.  Its used
for drywall.

use that to make it flat and be done...
On Nov 28, 2011 2:20 PM, "jim" <jim at well.com> wrote:

>
>    good point re grit size. 80 grit will probably work
> for a first pass. 100 or 120 grit will probably be fine
> for the final pass. (don't forget the elasticity of
> standards, e.g. "fuck it, looks fine to me.")
>    150 grit and finer will require a lot more work
> without any apparent benefit once covered with water-
> based paint.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 14:13 -0800, miloh wrote:
> > There are drywall sanders in the drywall tool bin, last seen by me
> > over by the kitchen near the mushroom logs
> >
> > Use blue drywall sanders with handles for speed and accuracy.  Regular
> > grit sandpaper is not recommended for this job
> >
> > On Nov 28, 2011 2:05 PM, "jim" <jim at well.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >            as to painting, i'm guessing the 5 gallons of primer
> >         we now have is PVA white.
> >            if we're gong to put a top coat over it, i recommend
> >         white-white, which has the greatest index of reflectivity
> >         (about 95%; the lightest off-white has 90%, and most very
> >         light colors reflect less than 90% of the light, some
> >         light and all medium saturated colors are in the 70s or
> >         less).
> >            Not only do we get much more efficient use of lighting
> >         with white-white, but we have much better control of color
> >         in the space. note that a commitment to some hue (e.g. blue)
> >         limits the possibilities of any decorations or alternate
> >         colors in the space. white-white lets us put up the greatest
> >         variety of posters and other colored objects without clumsy
> >         color rhythms.
> >
> >
> >
> >         On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 10:13 -0800, Shannon Lee wrote:
> >         > Hi Mike,
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > I believe that the mudding is finished in Church; what's
> >         going to be
> >         > needed in there is sanding and painting.  If you feel like
> >         > contributing, grab some sand paper from the drawer in the
> >         shop and get
> >         > to it!
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > Warning: this is an incredibly dusty endeavor.
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > --S
> >         >
> >         > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Mike Schachter
> >         <mike at mindmech.com>
> >         > wrote:
> >         >         Hey Shannon, thanks to you and everyone else
> >         >         for improving the space! I've been a long time
> >         >         Church room enthusiast and was gonna use it
> >         >         to give a little workshop tomorrow around 7pm,
> >         >         but if it's in disarray I'd rather show up and help
> >         >         out with something. So if there's a task I could
> >         >         take on let me know. Like, what are some basic
> >         >         things the Church room needs at this point, or
> >         >         will by tomorrow night?
> >         >
> >         >          mike
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >         On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Shannon Lee
> >         >         <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
> >         >         > Hi Noisebridge,
> >         >         > The walls around both classrooms and the shop have
> >         been
> >         >         extended to the
> >         >         > ceiling.
> >         >         > Sheetrocking is complete; mudding & taping was
> >         ongoing when
> >         >         I left a couple
> >         >         > of hours ago, but everything was winding down, and
> >         I suspect
> >         >         that it's done
> >         >         > for the night; when last I looked, Church and
> >         Turing were
> >         >         mudded, and much
> >         >         > of the outside was mudded; the shop still needs to
> >         be mudded
> >         >         inside and out.
> >         >         >  I will likely not be back to this until this
> >         weekend, but
> >         >         anyone else who
> >         >         > wants to mud is more than welcome to do so; and of
> >         course,
> >         >         after mudding
> >         >         > comes sanding, and after sanding comes...
> >         >         > Painting:
> >         >         > We bought a 5 gallon bucket of primer, which I
> >         plan to put
> >         >         up sometime,
> >         >         > maybe next weekend; but honestly, we really,
> >         really don't
> >         >         need any more vast
> >         >         > expanses of white walls.  Someone who has a Vision
> >         of what
> >         >         the walls should
> >         >         > look like, and the artistic skill to execute said
> >         vision,
> >         >         should make them
> >         >         > be something other than white.  We really need
> >         some color on
> >         >         those walls.
> >         >         >  Murals are totally welcome, simple non-white
> >         color schemes
> >         >         are equally
> >         >         > welcome, but someone for God's sake do something.
> >         >         > Power and Lights:
> >         >         > Turing and Church are without light.  The shop has
> >         the light
> >         >         over the
> >         >         > central work bench, and during the day is
> >         well-served by its
> >         >         skylight, but
> >         >         > at night it's very dark. The neon lighting which
> >         has been
> >         >         serving the
> >         >         > classrooms and the shop was in two long banks of
> >         lights
> >         >         which ran
> >         >         > continuously over the three rooms; they had to be
> >         broken up
> >         >         in order to
> >         >         > allow for walls to be installed.  I understand
> >         that there's
> >         >         a plan in place
> >         >         > to make the remaining lights light up; Jim even
> >         expressed a
> >         >         revolutionary
> >         >         > idea whereby the lights in a particular room would
> >         be
> >         >         controlled by a switch
> >         >         > *in that room* so that the people occupying the
> >         room could
> >         >         control their
> >         >         > need for artifical light.
> >         >         > The power rail above the table in the shop is
> >         still powered;
> >         >         the rail has
> >         >         > been removed from Church and Turing -- again, to
> >         make way
> >         >         for walls.  Turing
> >         >         > is well-served by its own 20-amp circuit and a
> >         *lot* of
> >         >         outlets at various
> >         >         > convenient leves; Chuch, however, currently has no
> >         power of
> >         >         any kind.  I
> >         >         > believe there is a plot afoot to power it, as well
> >         as to
> >         >         mount a projector
> >         >         > and projector screen back there.
> >         >         > If you'd like to be involved in getting power and
> >         lights
> >         >         where power and
> >         >         > lights should go, I refer you to Jim's missive on
> >         the topic
> >         >         in a previous
> >         >         > email thread, as well as to Jim, SuperQ and Miloh,
> >         who are
> >         >         all variously
> >         >         > working on this stuff.
> >         >         > Doors:
> >         >         > Doors are needed for the shop, and possibly for
> >         Turing and
> >         >         the Turing-Church
> >         >         > Intra-Classroom Door.  The big doorway leading to
> >         the shop
> >         >         needs (ideally)
> >         >         > double swinging doors, of the type you find in
> >         restraunt
> >         >         kitchen and
> >         >         > hospital settings; the other doors should all (in
> >         the best
> >         >         of all possible
> >         >         > worlds) have portholes, or windows, or be made of
> >         glass,
> >         >         because nobody
> >         >         > wants to have their class or meeting constantly
> >         interrupted
> >         >         by people
> >         >         > opening the door to see if anybody's in there.
> >          SuperQ is at
> >         >         work on the
> >         >         > door problem; feel free to contact him.
> >         >         > Lots of people showed up this weekend to help out,
> >         more than
> >         >         I can name
> >         >         > here, but including a one-armed Bandit, a small
> >         army of
> >         >         purple-haired women,
> >         >         > and an stray 9-year-old girl who came in with her
> >         parents
> >         >         after having heard
> >         >         > Mitch on NPR and was put to work mudding.  Kaya
> >         deserves a
> >         >         special shout-out
> >         >         > for the use of her truck for hauling everything;
> >         Danny for
> >         >         getting this
> >         >         > moving, and for paying for a lot of it; and Jurgen
> >         and Zack
> >         >         for basic
> >         >         > unflappability.
> >         >         > As I said, many more people were involved to one
> >         extent or
> >         >         another, and I
> >         >         > can think of at least one person whose name I've
> >         just flat
> >         >         forgotten; thank
> >         >         > you to all of you for having shown up and Just
> >         Done It when
> >         >         it needed to
> >         >         > Just Be Done.
> >         >         > There is more still to Just Do; if you want a
> >         task, just
> >         >         ask, and one shall
> >         >         > be given.
> >         >         > --S
> >         >         > --
> >         >         > Shannon Lee
> >         >         > (503) 539-3700
> >         >         >
> >         >         > "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is
> >         indistinguishable from
> >         >         science."
> >         >         >
> >         >
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> >         >
> >         >
> >         > --
> >         > Shannon Lee
> >         > (503) 539-3700
> >         >
> >         > "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from
> >         science."
> >         >
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