[Noisebridge-congress] re-entry to the US

Mitch Altman maltman23 at hotmail.com
Tue Jan 5 19:05:22 PST 2010


I flew directly to JFK from Berlin (got here last night).  The entry to the US was the same as always.  The only difference on the Berlin side was that they asked me 4 extra questions, all of which had the answer, "me", but the only one I remember is:  Who packed your bags?  Oh, yeah, they also asked me to show them all of the items I had with batteries, including my TV-B-Gone, and they put a red tag on some, but not all of them.  Those red tags sure made me feel more secure.

 

Mitch.

 

 


Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:18:08 -0800
From: longobord at gmail.com
To: congress at lists.noisebridge.net
Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-congress] re-entry to the US

The reports I'm hearing are that these security measures pretty much only count if you're flying through Canada.  People who fly directly to the US don't know what those who flew through Canada are talking about.  I am at a loss to explain this.

Except.... 

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On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 5:06 PM, meredith scheff <satiredun at gmail.com> wrote:

im at calgary airport right now, just went through security. twice. slowest security ive yet been through. I was allowed to take on my backpack as soon as i said the magic word 'laptop'. everyone was given full patdown, and every other passenger was searched. 
sigh.
they conviscated my 11mm socket. 
m





On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Ben Rupert <meowdip at gmail.com> wrote:


They wouldn't let me carry on my small backpack, but let other people carry on larger breifcase/messanger bags.  Form factor profiling.




On Jan 4, 2010 12:18 PM, "Christie Dudley" <longobord at gmail.com> wrote:

My experience was also coming through Canada.  I think you can pretty much expect that at or around US Customs you'll be expected to check something if you have more than one bag.  They explicitly listed: anything with wheels must get checked.  Anything that doesn't seem like something you'd be walking around on the street with, they'll badger you to be checked.  I saw a lot of backpacks, although I also saw a lot of backpacks checked.  

What I would do, if doing it all over again is stick whatever I wanted to carry through the US into my laptop bag and put the change of underwear, shampoo, etc in the other bag.  I'm glad I had 2 bags unchecked while traveling through Germany, as I would have had to collect my checked bag to overnight at the hotel they put me up in.  I don't think I would have otherwise packed anything differently knowing that at the border they'd be a right royal PITA.

When I got the "bonus patdown" - a second round of security in the Toronto airport, they gave me a slip outlining the new guidelines. (Because obviously I didn't meet them - I had *gasp* FOOD in my bag!)  I am completely positive that NOBODY adheres to the new guidelines as they're literally impossible to follow - i.e. you can't bring medications at all if you carry a laptop, although medications are explicitly allowed.  

Also cameras are explicitly allowed as carry ons.  I'd address them just like a laptop, although the regulations don't include things like, oh, camera bags and film...  There's nothing like a rules set that is so restrictive it contradicts itself.

Christie_______
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On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Kate McKinley <kate at lugh.net> wrote: > > I was able to travel wi...


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