[Cyborg] [EEG] Sorcerers' apprentice (Re: Bootstrapping class?)

Kelly hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com
Tue Apr 13 14:38:16 PDT 2010


> I even find it difficult to approach the folks close by here in San
> Diego; it seems to me that I'd have to chew through a mountain, if
> you'll excuse my Dutch, of red tape to get into a position I can
> actually do stuff AND share it with those who deserve it - which would
> be you folks. It actually looks like I could be getting somewhere useful
> in San Diego now.

UCSD has one of the foremost EEG labs: http://sccn.ucsd.edu/eeglab/  I
really respect Scott's work. I'm sure there are others. Also, funny
thing, I found this when googling around:
http://www.job.com/my.job/search/page=jobview/pt=2/key=50789637/

> Agreed.
> Is there a practical way to join forces with you while staying San
> Diego?

I would say that we're perfectly well equipped for the sort of
collaboration people usually do on mailing lists, i.e. you do some
stuff and post about it when it breaks. When you do stuff right you
post what you did on the wiki.

> Jean Rintoul, for example, is probably, by quite some margin, the
> hottest chick at noisebridge (I'm speaking from the perspective of EEG
> hacking, of course), but she's engaged with folks who want to keep the
> best of her for themselves.

I would say that Chung-hay probably trumps the lot of us, but we
really shouldn't get into it on a publicly archived list.

-Kelly

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 13:02, Christoph Maier
<cm.hardware.software.elsewhere at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 12:13 -0700, Kelly wrote:
>> > Because noisebridge is a pretty good lab to start with, and better labs
>> > may be quite some distance away.
>>
>> > That said, the prospects of access to an infrastructure far more
>> > advanced than what exists at noisebridge could keep you too far away to
>> > make more than very sporadic visits to noisebridge practical.
>>
>> Ah... what are you talking about? There are two major institutions
>> within 30 min public transit of NB that each have many many
>> neuroscience labs.
>
> Stanford, Kwabena Boahen comes to mind,
> and UC Berkeley, who there ... ?
>
>>  And that's not to mention the many non-academic
>> sources of neuro work in the bay area.
>
> By all means, tell me more
> ... my familiarity with what's going on in the SFO/SJC Bay Area is way
> too superficial ... maybe something else to discuss the coming weekend.
>
>>  And I'm assuming both the
>> lawrence labs do none, which is probably not true. To my knowledge,
>> two noisebridge members have jobs at neuroscience labs at present, and
>> more have in the past (and one works at Lawrence).  I just thought I'd
>> point out that it's totally possible to get a position like this,
>> especially if you're technical
>
> Analog/mixed signal CMOS IC design, PhD, check.
>
>>  and have modest income requirements.
>
> Check ... I want to pilot planes myself, though, maybe go chase flying
> watercoolers, eventually, which puts limits on my modesty.
>
> Can you point me in the right direction to find them?
>
> I even find it difficult to approach the folks close by here in San
> Diego; it seems to me that I'd have to chew through a mountain, if
> you'll excuse my Dutch, of red tape to get into a position I can
> actually do stuff AND share it with those who deserve it - which would
> be you folks. It actually looks like I could be getting somewhere useful
> in San Diego now.
>
>> But sure, Noisebridge makes for a good lab--assuming you want to be
>> your own PI.
>
> I'm trying to get the best of both worlds, but San Diego may indeed be
> an inconveniently far distance from noisebridge, which, in some sense,
> is the center of the universe for me right now.
>
>>  In which case, like I suggested, let's git er done.
>
> Agreed.
> Is there a practical way to join forces with you while staying San
> Diego?
> Alternatively, I'd need a practical way to support myself in a position
> closer to 2169 Mission that does not prevent me to do what I'm best at
> STRICTLY for fun.
>
> Jean Rintoul, for example, is probably, by quite some margin, the
> hottest chick at noisebridge (I'm speaking from the perspective of EEG
> hacking, of course), but she's engaged with folks who want to keep the
> best of her for themselves.
>
> Christoph <- needs to give the issue of an infrastructure dynamic
> enough (and free enough from NDAs and access restrictions) to allow
> remote collaboration some serious thought.
>
>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:54, Christoph Maier
>> <cm.hardware.software.elsewhere at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 10:32 -0700, Kelly wrote:
>> >> Sai, it sounds like you want an apprenticeship in a lab--why don't you
>> >> try to get one?
>> >
>> > Because noisebridge is a pretty good lab to start with, and better labs
>> > may be quite some distance away.
>> >
>> >> Or alternately, you could just start hacking openEEG. I don't think
>> >> that any of us are experts, but we learn by doing. We basically google
>> >> the next step and then hack it up (and then recurse).  The EEG group
>> >> has been pretty dead lately because I've been really busy and both
>> >> Josh and I are working on other projects at NB.  I go back and forth
>> >> on actually hacking openeeg myself, and certainly at some point I'll
>> >> dig in again, but if you want to see more action, then by all means
>> >> act.  I will make myself available for guidance.
>> >>
>> >> -Kelly
>> >
>> > That said, the prospects of access to an infrastructure far more
>> > advanced than what exists at noisebridge could keep you too far away to
>> > make more than very sporadic visits to noisebridge practical.
>> >
>> > Are y'all going to be around this coming weekend, say, Sunday?
>> >
>> > I think Mr Sensebridge's funemployment party would be an excellent
>> > occasion for me to take a short break from pursuing MY funemployment and
>> > to discuss how to coordinate my attempts at doing hands-on EEG stuff
>> > with yours, which has been my goal since ... at least since Mitch Altman
>> > shanghaied me.
>> >
>> > Christoph <- so far only wasting time on facebook, playing games,
>> > posting videos, and such.
>
>
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