[Cyborg] [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE

Kelly hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com
Fri Jan 22 14:37:56 PST 2010


Heh, that all sounds awesome, and we can probably do it all.  We just
need some coders.

-K

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Cool idea.  Let's have an EEG event!  I'd love to help.  We can create some
> simple projects to show off how brainwaves can be used -- first of all just
> displaying them.  Then maybe making a video run forwards and backwards, like
> I saw some people showing off at Yuri's night?  And maybe making a screen
> change colors?
>
> Mitch.
>
>
> ---------------
>> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:07:25 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
>> From: hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com
>> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
>> CC: dp at danielpacker.org; eeg at lists.noisebridge.net; askory at gmail.com;
>> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net; mrericboyd at yahoo.com;
>> cyborg at lists.noisebridge.net; ch_luk at berkeley.edu
>>
>> I think that we'll have an operable EEG rig for sure, probably Tracy's
>> 6 channel, so at this point we just need software to do something
>> interesting with the data. I've been mulling over how to get more
>> software people involved now that the hardware is under control.
>>
>> I kinda think we need to have an eeg event or presentation of some
>> kind to recruit the larger noisebridgian community.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Cool that there are projects that are using the OpenEEG boards!  Are any
>> > of
>> > the projects ones that would be good to show off at The Next HOPE or the
>> > SF
>> > Maker Faire?
>> >
>> > Mitch.
>> >
>> >
>> > --------------
>> >> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:29:21 -0800
>> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
>> >> From: hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com
>> >> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
>> >> CC: dp at danielpacker.org; eeg at lists.noisebridge.net; askory at gmail.com;
>> >> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net; mrericboyd at yahoo.com;
>> >> cyborg at lists.noisebridge.net; ch_luk at berkeley.edu
>> >>
>> >> Not only are all of the analog boards claimed, but there aren't enough
>> >> for the current projects in progress. I recommend ordering 3:1 analog
>> >> to digital boards. We have a spare digital board though, fyi.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > We have a few OpenEEG boards at NB.  I'm not sure if all of them are
>> >> > claimed
>> >> > for projects already.
>> >> >
>> >> > In any case I think that a collaborative project with one or more
>> >> > human
>> >> > body
>> >> > interfaces would be way interesting.  Daniel, maybe you could put out
>> >> > the
>> >> > word in other places, too.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mitch.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -------------------
>> >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:37:16 -0800
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
>> >> >> From: hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com
>> >> >> To: dp at danielpacker.org
>> >> >> CC: maltman23 at hotmail.com; eeg at lists.noisebridge.net;
>> >> >> askory at gmail.com;
>> >> >> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net; mrericboyd at yahoo.com;
>> >> >> cyborg at lists.noisebridge.net; ch_luk at berkeley.edu
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I see that nb-cyborg is cc-ed, but I thought I'd mention that
>> >> >> they've
>> >> >> done some similar projects.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Kelly
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Daniel Packer <dp at danielpacker.org>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > @Mitch - Hoping to make it this weekend!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > My goal with the ECG is to design a board and do a DIY kit build
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > toner transfer method, so I could definitely work on getting the
>> >> >> > kit
>> >> >> > displayed at HOPE. Beyond that, I may have time to work on my own
>> >> >> > OpenEEG
>> >> >> > but I'm not sure. Maybe with help from the lists I'll do alright.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If anyone has any robotic projects or ideas that would pair well
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > ECG
>> >> >> > let me know and we can brainstorm. My ideas were either an ECG
>> >> >> > printout
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > can take home with you, or a robotic oversized arduino controlled
>> >> >> > plush
>> >> >> > heart that beats in sync, and is physiologically accurate
>> >> >> > (representing
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > linear firing of the heart muscles).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Might be interesting to work on correlating data from an eeg and
>> >> >> > ecg
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > some entertaining purpose, if such a thing is possible.
>> >> >> > Temperature,
>> >> >> > blood
>> >> >> > pressure, and other simple signals could be mixed in for effect.
>> >> >> > I'm
>> >> >> > just
>> >> >> > throwing things out there a bit randomly.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I've signed up for the EEG/cyborg lists and will keep an eye on
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > thread
>> >> >> > and post thoughts as they come.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -Daniel (obscurite on #hacdc on freenode)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Mitch Altman
>> >> >> > <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi Daniel,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Having the ECG project at The Next HOPE will be cool.  I think
>> >> >> >> people
>> >> >> >> there will like it.  I think that if we had ECG with a few
>> >> >> >> other human
>> >> >> >> interfaces (North Paw, OpenEEG, etc.) it would be way fun
>> >> >> >> and popular
>> >> >> >> at the
>> >> >> >> conference.  We need people to pipe in, and to make this happen!
>> >> >> >> If
>> >> >> >> we
>> >> >> >> had
>> >> >> >> a way(s) to control a robot by changing our body that would be
>> >> >> >> awesome!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ECG is probably an easier way to start out than EEG.  But the
>> >> >> >> OpenEEG
>> >> >> >> project makes the hardware easy (and pretty inexpensive, too).
>> >> >> >> Electrodes
>> >> >> >> seem to be the most challenging, but some people, such as
>> >> >> >> Andreas,
>> >> >> >> who's
>> >> >> >> been hanging out at Noisebridge doing way cool EEG stuff, have it
>> >> >> >> down!  So,
>> >> >> >> please feel free to comment and/or ask questions on the
>> >> >> >> Noisebridge
>> >> >> >> EEG
>> >> >> >> list.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Please do come to the workshop at Baltimore-Node.  They seem like
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> really
>> >> >> >> good group of people.  Following my workshop on Saturday they are
>> >> >> >> having a
>> >> >> >> 6-month anniversary open house.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >> >> Mitch.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ________________________________
>> >> >> >> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:12:27 -0500
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
>> >> >> >> From: dp at danielpacker.org
>> >> >> >> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
>> >> >> >> CC: noisebridge at saizai.com;
>> >> >> >> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net;
>> >> >> >> eeg at lists.noisebridge.net; cyborg at lists.noisebridge.net
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hey Mitch,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I've never been to the baltimore node and I hear you're supposed
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> be
>> >> >> >> there this weekend. Maybe I'll make a trip up!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I'm working on a low cost version of an ECG amp front that can be
>> >> >> >> assembled as a kit. Once that's working I'll refine it with an
>> >> >> >> instrumentation amp and add more electrodes. Then I have to work
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> ADC
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> signals processing. I have a Xilinx Spartan-3E board with some
>> >> >> >> onboard
>> >> >> >> ADC
>> >> >> >> hardware that might work well as a processing host with the
>> >> >> >> picoblaze
>> >> >> >> soft
>> >> >> >> processor loaded up. Still ironing out the kinks in getting my
>> >> >> >> computer
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> talk to the board though ;) I'm also interested in what cheap
>> >> >> >> microcontrollers might be able to handle.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> EEG seems considerably more ambitious than ECG, but I'd like to
>> >> >> >> move
>> >> >> >> onto
>> >> >> >> EEG once I get the hang of ECG for sure.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I'm open to working on any kind of human machine interface
>> >> >> >> project,
>> >> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> this is what I'm focusing on right now as an entry point into bio
>> >> >> >> signals.
>> >> >> >> I'd be interested in biofeedback related stuff, driving robots or
>> >> >> >> other
>> >> >> >> systems with the heart signal, etc.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> -Daniel
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Mitch Altman
>> >> >> >> <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> (Thanks for passing that to the list again, Sai.)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi Daniel,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The ECG would be a way fun project to show off!  I'm also copying
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> EEG
>> >> >> >> and Cyborg lists here, since there's probably projects that could
>> >> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> fit nicely together.  North Paw would certainly be one.  Any
>> >> >> >> other
>> >> >> >> Cyborg
>> >> >> >> projects that would be cool to show off at The Next HOPE?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Can we get a cool EEG project together for The Next HOPE?  Any
>> >> >> >> ideas?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >> >> Mitch.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> p.s.  I almost made it to DC this trip out East, but couldn't
>> >> >> >> quite
>> >> >> >> fit
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> in.  Nick said you are kicking ass in DC, Daniel.  Yay!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> -----------------------
>> >> >> >> > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:59:55 -0800
>> >> >> >> > Subject: Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
>> >> >> >> > From: noisebridge at saizai.com
>> >> >> >> > To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
>> >> >> >> > CC: dp at danielpacker.org
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Missent.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> >> >> > From: Daniel Packer <dp at danielpacker.org>
>> >> >> >> > Date: Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:12 PM
>> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
>> >> >> >> > To: Sai Emrys <noisebridge at saizai.com>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Awesome, can't wait.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I'm be down for helping organize, and likely so would several
>> >> >> >> > other
>> >> >> >> > folks here at HacDC. Not just because it falls on my birthday,
>> >> >> >> > either.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Since I'm NB alum, maybe we could share a project. I'm building
>> >> >> >> > very
>> >> >> >> > basic ECG equipment at the moment, and hope to use
>> >> >> >> > microcontrollers
>> >> >> >> > and FPGAs (I have the boards) to do real time processing on
>> >> >> >> > these
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > other signals. July is enough time for me to work up to a much
>> >> >> >> > nicer
>> >> >> >> > ECG design and do some software, especially with help. We could
>> >> >> >> > set
>> >> >> >> > up
>> >> >> >> > a booth where people can come in and get hooked up and maybe
>> >> >> >> > have
>> >> >> >> > an
>> >> >> >> > artificial heart pump to their real heartbeat or something fun
>> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > makes it more than just a science project. Might dovetail
>> >> >> >> > nicely
>> >> >> >> > with
>> >> >> >> > wearable/cyborg stuff.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Anyway, congrats and good luck guys!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > -Daniel (obscurite on #hacdc on freenode)
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Sai Emrys
>> >> >> >> > <noisebridge at saizai.com>
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > Definitely show off the Northpaw.
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
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