[Cyborg] [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE

Luca Pellicoro luca.pellicoro at gmail.com
Sat Jan 30 13:27:05 PST 2010


Hello Everyone,

I have coding experience with high level languages and some project ideas.

See you on Sunday,

Luca

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com> wrote:
> There are definitely specific things that would need to be coded, but
> I don't know what they are yet.  What I mean is that there are no
> current projects that involve implementing and EEG interface to do
> cool stuff. I personally can masturbate away forever just improving
> signal quality and writing blink correction algorithms and comparing
> sympathetic frequencies. So if someone wants to make cool stuff, they
> should come get involved.  At this point we have the hardware side
> covered and I've got theory covered, and know how to attack any
> implementation problems, I just don't have any particular vision for
> implementation. So we're at the point where someone can show up with
> an idea and some coding skills unrelated to neuroscience and we can
> make it happen.
>
> -Kelly
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Are there specific things that need to be coded?
>>
>> Mitch.
>>
>>
>> ------------------
>>> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:37:56 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
>>> From: hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com
>>> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
>>> CC: dp at danielpacker.org; eeg at lists.noisebridge.net; askory at gmail.com;
>>> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net; mrericboyd at yahoo.com;
>>> cyborg at lists.noisebridge.net; ch_luk at berkeley.edu
>>>
>>> Heh, that all sounds awesome, and we can probably do it all. We just
>>> need some coders.
>>>
>>> -K
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Cool idea.  Let's have an EEG event!  I'd love to help.  We can
>>> > create some
>>> > simple projects to show off how brainwaves can be used -- first of all
>>> > just
>>> > displaying them.  Then maybe making a video run forwards and backwards,
>>> > like
>>> > I saw some people showing off at Yuri's night?  And maybe making a
>>> > screen
>>> > change colors?
>>> >
>>> > Mitch.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ---------------
>>> >> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:07:25 -0800
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
>>> >> From: hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com
>>> >> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
>>> >> CC: dp at danielpacker.org; eeg at lists.noisebridge.net; askory at gmail.com;
>>> >> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net; mrericboyd at yahoo.com;
>>> >> cyborg at lists.noisebridge.net; ch_luk at berkeley.edu
>>> >>
>>> >> I think that we'll have an operable EEG rig for sure, probably Tracy's
>>> >> 6 channel, so at this point we just need software to do something
>>> >> interesting with the data. I've been mulling over how to get more
>>> >> software people involved now that the hardware is under control.
>>> >>
>>> >> I kinda think we need to have an eeg event or presentation of some
>>> >> kind to recruit the larger noisebridgian community.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > Cool that there are projects that are using the OpenEEG boards!  Are
>>> >> > any
>>> >> > of
>>> >> > the projects ones that would be good to show off at The Next HOPE or
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > SF
>>> >> > Maker Faire?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Mitch.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --------------
>>> >> >> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:29:21 -0800
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
>>> >> >> From: hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com
>>> >> >> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
>>> >> >> CC: dp at danielpacker.org; eeg at lists.noisebridge.net;
>>> >> >> askory at gmail.com;
>>> >> >> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net; mrericboyd at yahoo.com;
>>> >> >> cyborg at lists.noisebridge.net; ch_luk at berkeley.edu
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Not only are all of the analog boards claimed, but there aren't
>>> >> >> enough
>>> >> >> for the current projects in progress. I recommend ordering 3:1
>>> >> >> analog
>>> >> >> to digital boards. We have a spare digital board though, fyi.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Mitch Altman
>>> >> >> <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> > We have a few OpenEEG boards at NB.  I'm not sure if all of them
>>> >> >> > are
>>> >> >> > claimed
>>> >> >> > for projects already.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > In any case I think that a collaborative project with one or more
>>> >> >> > human
>>> >> >> > body
>>> >> >> > interfaces would be way interesting.  Daniel, maybe you could put
>>> >> >> > out
>>> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> > word in other places, too.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Mitch.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > -------------------
>>> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:37:16 -0800
>>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
>>> >> >> >> From: hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com
>>> >> >> >> To: dp at danielpacker.org
>>> >> >> >> CC: maltman23 at hotmail.com; eeg at lists.noisebridge.net;
>>> >> >> >> askory at gmail.com;
>>> >> >> >> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net; mrericboyd at yahoo.com;
>>> >> >> >> cyborg at lists.noisebridge.net; ch_luk at berkeley.edu
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I see that nb-cyborg is cc-ed, but I thought I'd mention that
>>> >> >> >> they've
>>> >> >> >> done some similar projects.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> -Kelly
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Daniel Packer
>>> >> >> >> <dp at danielpacker.org>
>>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> > @Mitch - Hoping to make it this weekend!
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > My goal with the ECG is to design a board and do a DIY kit
>>> >> >> >> > build
>>> >> >> >> > with
>>> >> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> >> > toner transfer method, so I could definitely work on getting
>>> >> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> >> > kit
>>> >> >> >> > displayed at HOPE. Beyond that, I may have time to work on my
>>> >> >> >> > own
>>> >> >> >> > OpenEEG
>>> >> >> >> > but I'm not sure. Maybe with help from the lists I'll do
>>> >> >> >> > alright.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > If anyone has any robotic projects or ideas that would pair
>>> >> >> >> > well
>>> >> >> >> > with
>>> >> >> >> > ECG
>>> >> >> >> > let me know and we can brainstorm. My ideas were either an ECG
>>> >> >> >> > printout
>>> >> >> >> > you
>>> >> >> >> > can take home with you, or a robotic oversized arduino
>>> >> >> >> > controlled
>>> >> >> >> > plush
>>> >> >> >> > heart that beats in sync, and is physiologically accurate
>>> >> >> >> > (representing
>>> >> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> >> > linear firing of the heart muscles).
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Might be interesting to work on correlating data from an eeg
>>> >> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> >> > ecg
>>> >> >> >> > for
>>> >> >> >> > some entertaining purpose, if such a thing is possible.
>>> >> >> >> > Temperature,
>>> >> >> >> > blood
>>> >> >> >> > pressure, and other simple signals could be mixed in for
>>> >> >> >> > effect.
>>> >> >> >> > I'm
>>> >> >> >> > just
>>> >> >> >> > throwing things out there a bit randomly.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > I've signed up for the EEG/cyborg lists and will keep an eye on
>>> >> >> >> > this
>>> >> >> >> > thread
>>> >> >> >> > and post thoughts as they come.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > -Daniel (obscurite on #hacdc on freenode)
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Mitch Altman
>>> >> >> >> > <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
>>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Hi Daniel,
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Having the ECG project at The Next HOPE will be cool.  I think
>>> >> >> >> >> people
>>> >> >> >> >> there will like it.  I think that if we had ECG with a few
>>> >> >> >> >> other human
>>> >> >> >> >> interfaces (North Paw, OpenEEG, etc.) it would be way fun
>>> >> >> >> >> and popular
>>> >> >> >> >> at the
>>> >> >> >> >> conference.  We need people to pipe in, and to make this
>>> >> >> >> >> happen!
>>> >> >> >> >> If
>>> >> >> >> >> we
>>> >> >> >> >> had
>>> >> >> >> >> a way(s) to control a robot by changing our body that would be
>>> >> >> >> >> awesome!
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> ECG is probably an easier way to start out than EEG.  But the
>>> >> >> >> >> OpenEEG
>>> >> >> >> >> project makes the hardware easy (and pretty inexpensive, too).
>>> >> >> >> >> Electrodes
>>> >> >> >> >> seem to be the most challenging, but some people, such as
>>> >> >> >> >> Andreas,
>>> >> >> >> >> who's
>>> >> >> >> >> been hanging out at Noisebridge doing way cool EEG stuff, have
>>> >> >> >> >> it
>>> >> >> >> >> down!  So,
>>> >> >> >> >> please feel free to comment and/or ask questions on the
>>> >> >> >> >> Noisebridge
>>> >> >> >> >> EEG
>>> >> >> >> >> list.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Please do come to the workshop at Baltimore-Node.  They seem
>>> >> >> >> >> like
>>> >> >> >> >> a
>>> >> >> >> >> really
>>> >> >> >> >> good group of people.  Following my workshop on Saturday they
>>> >> >> >> >> are
>>> >> >> >> >> having a
>>> >> >> >> >> 6-month anniversary open house.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Cheers,
>>> >> >> >> >> Mitch.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> ________________________________
>>> >> >> >> >> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:12:27 -0500
>>> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
>>> >> >> >> >> From: dp at danielpacker.org
>>> >> >> >> >> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
>>> >> >> >> >> CC: noisebridge at saizai.com;
>>> >> >> >> >> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net;
>>> >> >> >> >> eeg at lists.noisebridge.net; cyborg at lists.noisebridge.net
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Hey Mitch,
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> I've never been to the baltimore node and I hear you're
>>> >> >> >> >> supposed
>>> >> >> >> >> to
>>> >> >> >> >> be
>>> >> >> >> >> there this weekend. Maybe I'll make a trip up!
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> I'm working on a low cost version of an ECG amp front that can
>>> >> >> >> >> be
>>> >> >> >> >> assembled as a kit. Once that's working I'll refine it with an
>>> >> >> >> >> instrumentation amp and add more electrodes. Then I have to
>>> >> >> >> >> work
>>> >> >> >> >> on
>>> >> >> >> >> ADC
>>> >> >> >> >> and
>>> >> >> >> >> signals processing. I have a Xilinx Spartan-3E board with some
>>> >> >> >> >> onboard
>>> >> >> >> >> ADC
>>> >> >> >> >> hardware that might work well as a processing host with the
>>> >> >> >> >> picoblaze
>>> >> >> >> >> soft
>>> >> >> >> >> processor loaded up. Still ironing out the kinks in getting my
>>> >> >> >> >> computer
>>> >> >> >> >> to
>>> >> >> >> >> talk to the board though ;) I'm also interested in what cheap
>>> >> >> >> >> microcontrollers might be able to handle.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> EEG seems considerably more ambitious than ECG, but I'd like
>>> >> >> >> >> to
>>> >> >> >> >> move
>>> >> >> >> >> onto
>>> >> >> >> >> EEG once I get the hang of ECG for sure.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> I'm open to working on any kind of human machine interface
>>> >> >> >> >> project,
>>> >> >> >> >> but
>>> >> >> >> >> this is what I'm focusing on right now as an entry point into
>>> >> >> >> >> bio
>>> >> >> >> >> signals.
>>> >> >> >> >> I'd be interested in biofeedback related stuff, driving robots
>>> >> >> >> >> or
>>> >> >> >> >> other
>>> >> >> >> >> systems with the heart signal, etc.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> -Daniel
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Mitch Altman
>>> >> >> >> >> <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
>>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> (Thanks for passing that to the list again, Sai.)
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Hi Daniel,
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> The ECG would be a way fun project to show off!  I'm also
>>> >> >> >> >> copying
>>> >> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> >> EEG
>>> >> >> >> >> and Cyborg lists here, since there's probably projects that
>>> >> >> >> >> could
>>> >> >> >> >> all
>>> >> >> >> >> fit nicely together.  North Paw would certainly be one.  Any
>>> >> >> >> >> other
>>> >> >> >> >> Cyborg
>>> >> >> >> >> projects that would be cool to show off at The Next HOPE?
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Can we get a cool EEG project together for The Next HOPE?  Any
>>> >> >> >> >> ideas?
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Cheers,
>>> >> >> >> >> Mitch.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> p.s.  I almost made it to DC this trip out East, but couldn't
>>> >> >> >> >> quite
>>> >> >> >> >> fit
>>> >> >> >> >> it
>>> >> >> >> >> in.  Nick said you are kicking ass in DC, Daniel.  Yay!
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> -----------------------
>>> >> >> >> >> > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:59:55 -0800
>>> >> >> >> >> > Subject: Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
>>> >> >> >> >> > From: noisebridge at saizai.com
>>> >> >> >> >> > To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
>>> >> >> >> >> > CC: dp at danielpacker.org
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > Missent.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >> >> >> >> > From: Daniel Packer <dp at danielpacker.org>
>>> >> >> >> >> > Date: Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:12 PM
>>> >> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
>>> >> >> >> >> > To: Sai Emrys <noisebridge at saizai.com>
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > Awesome, can't wait.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > I'm be down for helping organize, and likely so would
>>> >> >> >> >> > several
>>> >> >> >> >> > other
>>> >> >> >> >> > folks here at HacDC. Not just because it falls on my
>>> >> >> >> >> > birthday,
>>> >> >> >> >> > either.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > Since I'm NB alum, maybe we could share a project. I'm
>>> >> >> >> >> > building
>>> >> >> >> >> > very
>>> >> >> >> >> > basic ECG equipment at the moment, and hope to use
>>> >> >> >> >> > microcontrollers
>>> >> >> >> >> > and FPGAs (I have the boards) to do real time processing on
>>> >> >> >> >> > these
>>> >> >> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> >> >> > other signals. July is enough time for me to work up to a
>>> >> >> >> >> > much
>>> >> >> >> >> > nicer
>>> >> >> >> >> > ECG design and do some software, especially with help. We
>>> >> >> >> >> > could
>>> >> >> >> >> > set
>>> >> >> >> >> > up
>>> >> >> >> >> > a booth where people can come in and get hooked up and maybe
>>> >> >> >> >> > have
>>> >> >> >> >> > an
>>> >> >> >> >> > artificial heart pump to their real heartbeat or something
>>> >> >> >> >> > fun
>>> >> >> >> >> > that
>>> >> >> >> >> > makes it more than just a science project. Might dovetail
>>> >> >> >> >> > nicely
>>> >> >> >> >> > with
>>> >> >> >> >> > wearable/cyborg stuff.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > Anyway, congrats and good luck guys!
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > -Daniel (obscurite on #hacdc on freenode)
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Sai Emrys
>>> >> >> >> >> > <noisebridge at saizai.com>
>>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> >> > > Definitely show off the Northpaw.
>>> >> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
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>>> >> >
>>> >
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