[Cyborg] Cyborg/fyborg tails!

Eric Boyd mrericboyd at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 16 13:29:33 PST 2010


Wow, that's super awesome!  I'd love to play with these sensors!  I 
found your mind controlled wheel chair video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyQv61899HE

Unfortunately the company seems to want $2k for the development kit. 
Can you swing us a deal somehow?  Or do you still have rights to the 
underlying tech that you could open source?

Eric



On 11/16/10 12:41 AM, Thomas Coleman wrote:
> Heya all,
>
> I'm the Thomas Coleman mentioned below, sorry for the delay responding.
> The sensors mentioned by Mikolaj are derived from the core technology
> behind the Audeo (http://www.theaudeo.com). They input three signals
> from the surface of the skin (and power/ground), and output a unipolar
> digital signal corresponding to the level of muscle activity. Bigger
> muscle activity, bigger byte value. The cool thing is I originally
> designed them to detect the extremely low level signals of people no
> longer able to produce detectable activity, like locked in ALS patients.
> This means they can pick up signals so weak nobody can tell you're even
> doing anything to trigger them. It takes some self-training to reliably
> control your signals like that, but once you get it you can do all kinds
> of cool/spooky things (somewhere out there is a youtube vid of me evilly
> cruising in a wheelchair among other things hehe). Anyways, long story
> short the sensors he was talking about are more hacker-friendly than
> furry-specific. They're reliable, sensitive, RF immune, tiny, and can
> even use steel as skin contacts. Sorry I'm kinda proud of my babies :)
>
> ~T
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Mikolaj Habryn <dichro at rcpt.to
> <mailto:dichro at rcpt.to>> wrote:
>
>
>     Sorry for vanishing after that tantalizing message :P I'm mid-travel
>     (and
>     mostly mid-travail, as well).
>
>     I didn't design the sensors; they're being done by one Thomas
>     Coleman, who
>     also does EMG stuff professionally. The current prototype is a
>     single sensor
>     (three-lead) differential amplifier plus microcontroller in a small,
>     sealed
>     8-pin module that outputs serial. I've pointed him at this thread, so
>     hopefully he'll have a chance to weigh in with more detail.
>
>     m.
>
>     On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Tomm <tomm.fire at gmail.com
>     <mailto:tomm.fire at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>      > Nov. 7th works for me.  I have some new hardware
>      > to show off from my ultrasound project, might even
>      > be able to show it all working (!).
>      >
>      >     Tom
>      >
>      > On 10/24/10 11:30 PM, ch_luk at berkeley.edu
>     <mailto:ch_luk at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>      > > Hi Sarah,
>      > >
>      > >    Your work is really neat! Would you be willing to show us
>     some of it
>      > at
>      > > a future cyborg meeting, perhaps next month? We hold monthly-ish
>      > > meetings Sunday afternoons starting at 4 pm in the Noisebridge
>     space
>      > > (2169 Mission St). Might Nov. 7 or 21 work for you?
>      > >
>      > >    To the local Bay Area cyborgs, who's free Nov. 7 or Nov. 21?
>     (I'm at a
>      > > conference Nov. 14.)  It'd be great to have everyone
>     show-and-tell their
>      > > current work. Automated zebrafish heartbeat sensing, Todd? Eric
>     and I
>      > > should have a complete pulse choker prototype for you to try on
>     by then.
>      > > =)
>      > >
>      > >    To the remote cyborgs, book your plane tickets and visit! ;)
>     Also,
>      > what
>      > > makes the EMG sensor you speak of specific for furry-tech, Mikolaj?
>      > >
>      > >    Sarah, does wanting to add electronic eyelashes or wings
>     count in the
>      > > adding-limbs-that-humans-don't-normally-have genre?
>      > >
>      > > Smiles,
>      > >    Chung-Hay
>      > >
>      > >
>      > >> I have some EMG stuff queued up to work on too. I met a
>     gentleman at
>      > PS:1
>      > >> a
>      > >> few months ago and we got each other enthusiastic enough that
>     he has
>      > >> prototyped up some EMG sensors specifically for furry-tech
>     applications
>      > (I
>      > >> was going to start with articulated pointy ears, but tails were
>      > definitely
>      > >> on the wistfully desired list :). I'll be funding an initial
>     run of
>      > >> sensors
>      > >> (probably no more than a dozen or so) when I get back to NYC;
>     would be
>      > >> happy
>      > >> to send some to Noisebridge for experimentation if they'd be of
>      > interest.
>      > >>
>      > >> m.
>      > >>
>      > >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Sarah Nordstrom
>      > >> <sarahemm at sarahemm.net <mailto:sarahemm at sarahemm.net>>wrote:
>      > >>
>      > >>> I was talking to Rachel (apologies if I've misspelled your
>     name) at
>      > >>> Noisebridge a couple days back, and we got talking about
>     tails.  I
>      > >>> started
>      > >>> working on a tail with gyros and accelerometers in it a
>     couple years
>      > >>> back,
>      > >>> to assist with balance (my inner ears don't work properly),
>     and have
>      > >>> been
>      > >>> inspired to start working on that again! :) I said I'd post
>     the links I
>      > >>> was talking about, so here they are:
>      > >>> The howto pages I talked about are at
>      > >>> http://www.wolftronix.com/howto.htm
>      > >>> and the bionic tail (using EMG data to control a tail)
>     project is at
>      > >>> http://www.wolftronix.com/biotail/biotail.htm.
>      > >>>
>      > >>> Anyone else interested in tails or other types of
>      > >>> adding-limbs-that-humans-don't-normally-have? (or even limbs
>     humans
>      > *do*
>      > >>> normally have?)
>      > >>>
>      > >>>   - Sarah
>      > >>>
>      > >>>
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