[Digitalarchivists] Noisebridge DIY Book Scanner

newmy51 at gmail.com newmy51 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 23 23:02:26 UTC 2013


Jude,

There's a chance I'll be out of town during those dates.  Let me know what
Robert says if/when you can get a hold of him and let's go from there.

-Danny


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jude Coelho <judec at archive.org> wrote:

>  Hey Danny,
>
> I'm hoping to talk to Robert within the next hour or so (it is about 6AM
> in Shenzhen), but since he's not here, I think it would be most convenient
> to reschedule for when Robert is back in town. How about any time during
> the week of August 12-16 or 19-23?
>
> Jude Coelho
> Process Manager
> Internet Archive
>
> On 7/23/13 2:06 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com wrote:
>
>  Jude,
>
>  Haven't heard back from you yet.  Are we on for tomorrow, or should we
> reschedule for when Robert's back in town?
>
>  -Danny
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:49 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com <newmy51 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  DA List et al.,
>>
>>  I propose we plan for the late morning/early afternoon of Wednesday the
>> 24th or anytime shortly thereafter.  That way, John will be back in town to
>> participate.
>>
>> Reply to confirm.
>>
>>  -Danny
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Christopher Whipple <crwbot at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I'm unavailable Wednesday evenings and this coming Monday evening, the
>>> 15th. Other than that, my schedule is fairly flexible given some fair
>>> warning.
>>>
>>>  -c
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:38 PM, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> My return flight is the night of July 23rd, so any date after that
>>>> would work for me.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:01 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com <newmy51 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>    Jude et al.,
>>>>>
>>>>>  I'm back in town, moved, mostly recovered from whatever latest plague
>>>>> is going around, and ready to meet.  However, we have two core group
>>>>> members currently out of town, both of whom should be back by the end of
>>>>> the month, if not sooner (hopefully sooner).  I, too, may be leaving town
>>>>> for a spell sometime in late July/early August.  That said:
>>>>>
>>>>>  1.  John and Felipe: when are your precise return dates and earliest
>>>>> possible days you'd be available to travel to IA and/or Richmond?
>>>>>
>>>>>  2.  Jude: what days/times work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>>  3.  Chris Whipple: when would your car be available for such a trip?
>>>>>
>>>>>  Awaiting your replies,
>>>>>
>>>>>  -Danny
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:38 PM, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hey everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  That's great news about the PC, Jude! I would be up for travelling
>>>>>> to Richmond to meet and help set things up, on whatever date works for
>>>>>> everyone else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:20 AM, newmy51 at gmail.com <
>>>>>> newmy51 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Jude, Daniel & Noisebridge DA-List,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I'm still out of state, but finally at a computer fit for writing
>>>>>>> emails which my limited patience for dinky touchscreens will not permit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Those software tweaks sound like an excellent fit for our
>>>>>>> purposes, and perhaps kit scanners worldwide, as internet connectivity is
>>>>>>> not necessarily a guarantee in all scanning circumstances.  It's also nice
>>>>>>> to know that one or more components of the archive.orghardware/software suite are retoolable at all.  Can that be taken to mean
>>>>>>> that these things are entirely open source?  If so, is there publicly
>>>>>>> available documentation detailing this equipment and the software behind
>>>>>>> it?  One of the end goals of Noisebridge's book scanning endeavors is,
>>>>>>> loosely put, to develop hardware, software and operation standards to which
>>>>>>> all other hackerspaces and their scanners can adhere.  From conversations
>>>>>>> so far with both Daniel and IA people, that appears to be a shared goal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I can't personally make a trip to Richmond until at least a few
>>>>>>> days after I get back (20th), as I'll be moving my life out of one San
>>>>>>> Francisco hobble and into another.  We do have several folks in our ranks
>>>>>>> who have expressed a willingness to travel, whether to the Archive, Ace
>>>>>>> Monster Toys, etc.  I'll leave it to them to speak up if that's a trip one
>>>>>>> or more are willing/able to make.  Purely out of self interest, I propose
>>>>>>> that meeting take place closer to the end of this month or the beginning of
>>>>>>> next, so as to remain as personally involved as possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  We haven't settled on a Powershot model as of yet.  That search
>>>>>>> was ongoing until news came of being loaned Canon DSLRs from the Books
>>>>>>> dept. at IA. I assume our "beta testing" will benefit from the use of more
>>>>>>> than one camera model.  Seems like we ought to seek out Powershots just to
>>>>>>> have on hand.  Do you, Jude, or other Books people have any insights into
>>>>>>> the merits of one model or another?  I've done my own
>>>>>>> exploring/conversating in this DIYBookScanner thread<http://www.diybookscanner.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2569>but there does not seem to be a consensus on a single gold standard so far.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  With all the developments as of late, we (the Noisebridge Digital
>>>>>>> Archivists group) are definitely due for another general meeting.  That
>>>>>>> will likely be the first order of business upon my return to SF, post-move.
>>>>>>>  I'll send out another dispatch once the date's been set.  I extend to you,
>>>>>>> Jude, the same invitation I have to Daniel, which is to Skype into that
>>>>>>> meeting and/or simply subscribe to the DA mailing list<https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Digital_Archivists> if
>>>>>>> you'd like to stay extra-current with our goings on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  With great anticipation,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  -Danny N.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Jude Coelho <judec at archive.org>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Hi Danny,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wanted to give you an update on where things stand. I ordered a
>>>>>>>> PC (the same model we use on our scribes) and it should be here before the
>>>>>>>> end of the week. I plan to put our software on there and then set a few
>>>>>>>> switches in the software that are designed to allow our scribes to function
>>>>>>>> in the event of a network outage. This will allow the software to work
>>>>>>>> without a connection to archive.org's database. I don't believe
>>>>>>>> that should take more than a day, so I think, if it's good for you, we can
>>>>>>>> probably meet up some time later next week or early the following week and
>>>>>>>> so I can give you the PC, the cameras, and some training in using our
>>>>>>>> software. I'm also excited to check out the scanner.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After that, I think you're definitely going to want to make some
>>>>>>>> modifications to the software, and I'd be glad to help or advise with that
>>>>>>>> in any way I can. We can discuss it in more detail, but to briefly
>>>>>>>> summarize our process, our software is designed to produce a tarball of
>>>>>>>> images along with an xml file containing metadata about cropping,
>>>>>>>> deskewing, and rotation of the images (and some structural metadata about
>>>>>>>> page numbers and page types optionally captured during image capture). This
>>>>>>>> metadata is used on our servers, once a book is uploaded, to perform those
>>>>>>>> actions on the raw images, producing the final formats that you see on
>>>>>>>> archive.org. While you're of course welcome to upload anything you
>>>>>>>> scan to archive.org, wait for it to process, and then download it,
>>>>>>>> I assume you'd also like to be able to produce finished scans independent
>>>>>>>> of our servers (and we would like to see that happen as well).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would you be able to meet at our Physical Archive in Richmond?
>>>>>>>> That's where the cameras are, and also where my colleague Sean is based. He
>>>>>>>> will have some ideas for mounting the cameras.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm also very interested in seeing how the software works with the
>>>>>>>> Canon Powershots you guys have. Do you have the model number of those, by
>>>>>>>> the way? I would like to look at the specs online.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll email you again as soon as the PC arrives so we can set a
>>>>>>>> date. Are you still out of town? If so, is there someone else I should
>>>>>>>> email about this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, and I look forward to working together.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Jude
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jude Coelho
>>>>>>>> Process Manager
>>>>>>>> Internet Archive
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    On 5/28/13 10:55 AM, Jude Coelho wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Hi Danny,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After you left on Friday, I heard back on an email I had sent to
>>>>>>>> Daniel Reetz a week earlier, and he suggested we contact Noisebridge and
>>>>>>>> look into working together since you had one of the kits. Synchronicity!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me see what Robert has to say about the time frame and I'll get
>>>>>>>> back to you asap. His email is CCed here btw.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jude Coelho
>>>>>>>> Process Manager
>>>>>>>> Internet Archive
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/24/13 6:17 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Jude,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I write you now from Noisebridge, just beneath the shelf
>>>>>>>> currently home to the mostly-assembled Reetz kit scanner.  An update has
>>>>>>>> gone out to the Digital Archivists mailing list (
>>>>>>>> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Digital_Archivists) with a recap
>>>>>>>> of our attendance today at IA and the accompanying discussions with
>>>>>>>> yourself, Robert and Jason Scott.  Though I will almost certainly be out of
>>>>>>>> town for the occasion, we'd like to put together a time when the kit can be
>>>>>>>> brought to IA and outfitted with the necessary equipment and/or software to
>>>>>>>> begin the "beta testing" we discussed this afternoon.  The only way I could
>>>>>>>> personally participate in that meeting would be if it took place this
>>>>>>>> coming Tuesday, which I realize may be too short of notice.  Either way,
>>>>>>>> get back to me when you can with what works for you and we'll plan
>>>>>>>> accordingly.  And of course, thank you, again, for your advice, generosity,
>>>>>>>> and interest in our project and its progress.  We look forward to working
>>>>>>>> with you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Very Best.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  -Danny N.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  PS:  Please forward this onto Robert as well (I don't have his
>>>>>>>> email address).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>


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