[ml] Hidden Markov Models

Glen Jarvis glen at glenjarvis.com
Tue Jul 13 17:54:37 PDT 2010


I checked out 'Bishop's Machine Learning book':

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/cmbishop/prml/

*Very* god resource. The sample chapter to download (chapter 8) deals quite
well with this type of info. I haven't had any of this theory before, so I
think the answer to most of my questions are to sit down and go through
this...

It would be more fun with help and nudges from peers, however..

Cheers,


Glen


On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Vicente Malave <vicente.malave at gmail.com>wrote:

> HMMs are made of a few building blocks, which are each conceptually
> simple, but it can be a lot to digest all at once. Some of these are
> identified here, like conditional probability, bayes rule. A few more
> are the Viterbi algorithm to perform inference, which is a special
> case of dynamic programming, and then EM to actually learn the
> parameters, the notion of having a generative model, latent variables,
> what 'Markov' means.
>
> I have a specific toy example I'd like to to work through (and write
> code for!) because its tangentially relevant to my current job:
> classifying the language a word is from given the string of
> characters: like are these words probably English or something else
> using the same character set. The nice thing is that you'll be able to
> sort of understand it and sanity check it by inspection, and you can
> see if the HMM produces gibberish that is recognizably English
> gibberish.
>
> I usually like Bishop's Machine Learning book if you have or can
> obtain a copy of that. I usually do not like Wikipedia entries about
> math/cs topics because the quality is widely varying.
>
> Something free is the classic tutorial paper that introduced them to
> the field (from 1989)
>  (this link should work for everyone, let me know if not, all journals
> should be open access)
> http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~murphyk/Bayes/rabiner.pdf
> but it is kind of dense. Actually the wikipedia page seems to follow
> the outline of Rabiner's presentation.
>
> Oh yeah, I'm going to your ML group meeting and look forward to
> meeting you guys.
>
> Vicente Malave
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:
> > I was invited to this list for questions I have about Hidden Markov
> Models.
> > Please forgive the extra chatter.
> >
> > I work at a Phylogenomics lab and we do HMM stuff all the time -- with
> > either the SAM software tool (http://compbio.soe.ucsc.edu/sam.html), or
> the
> > newer tool HMMR (http://hmmer.janelia.org/). Conceptually I have
> 'enough'
> > knowledge -- like a user to a pc has enough to be able to point and click
> to
> > read their email.
> > But, the fundamental "could I write my own toy example"
> always escapes me.
> > Here's what I know (from the ground up):
> > Conditional Probability:
> >     Although I never reviewed this Wiki page, it's probably a fairly good
> > introduction:
> >     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_probability
> >
> > Baye's Theorem:
> >      This wiki page doesn't explain it in a clear way like I would to
> > someone just starting off. I'd start with a conditional tree (classic
> text
> > book examples are - base decision (root of the tree) is "if the owner
> > purchased a warranty or not (either yes (left branch) or no (right
> branch).
> > And, then a second condition -- let's say the radio breaks (another fork
> of
> > the left tree), for example. Then, we can say things like "what's the
> > probability that, given the condition that someone purchased a warranty,
> > what's the probability that they have a broken radio)...  Obviously this
> > would be much clear with a nice whiteboard and a decision tree. Baye's
> > theorem has always twisted a mind or two in probability class - but it's
> > actually not that hard once you get your mind around it (although I need
> a
> > refresher).
> >     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayes'_theorem
> >
> > The Simplest Baysean Network
> >     I'm obviously working myself up to the Wiki page for an HMM
> > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Markov_model). This explains that
> an
> > HMM is "A HMM can be considered as the simplest dynamic Bayesian
> network."
> > [1]).
> >     But, the simples dynamic Bayesian network Wiki page
> > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Bayesian_network) used to talk
> about
> > grass, water and sprinklers (as an example). Although I didn't get it
> 100%,
> > I always felt comfortable there was a real-world example.
> >     With all of that said, I still couldn't "do it." How was this
> different
> > than a Baysean decision tree? If I had a simple exercise that I could
> work
> > through, with an 'answer to compare to', it would help.
> >
> > Best of all, I'd like to write a very small toy program. I'm most
> > comfortable with Protein Multiple Sequence Alignments (MSA), so if I
> could
> > make a very basic hmm from a small MSA, it'd really help..
> >     Can anyone explain to me, like they were speaking to a 6-year old,
> how a
> > simple baysean network (HMM) can be created. If you want an example,
> imagine
> > the following:
> >
> >
> >
> > * There are 20 letters of an alphabet (all letters except JOBZUX
> > (interesting way to remember it :))
> > * An example of a set of sequences that have been aligned follows:
> > DLITPLHTYMITGN-VCVHVIKKIIELGGDMDMKCV
> > NLITPLHSYLRRDELISASVLKKVIELGADRNLRCC
> > HLITPLHSYLRRDESISASVLKKVIELGADRNLRCC
> > HLITPLHSYLRRDESISASVLKKVIELGADRNLRCC
> > HLITPLHSYLRRDESISASVLKKVIELGADRNLRCC
> > DLITPLHTYMITGN-VCVHVIKKIIELGGDMDMKCV
> > NLITPLHTYMITGN-VCVHVIKKIIELGGDMDMKCI
> > NLITPLHTYMITGN-VCVDVIKKIIELGGDMDMKCV
> > DLITPLHTYTITGN-VCAYVIKKIIELGGDMDMKCV
> > DLITPLHTYMITGN-VCVHVIKKIIELG--------
> > So, in this example, the first column is more variable than the second or
> > the fourteenth.
> > I should be able to score an HMM and see if it matches another sequence
> > (notice lower case letters mean an HMM insert state):
> > masltehaivnvrkliystcledfdnristnarinnydpddgycsdgdiysynhtvrykhikvfkkkyyg
> > idnrqrqqytdsktalidiigsmilmlkadrknkslvdqykkfvkyiikdnksktanhvfdipnngdmdi
> > lytyfnsprtrcikldlikymvdvgivnlnyvckktgygilhaylgnmnvdidilewlcnngvdvnlqns
> > ......................................................................
> > ...............NLITPLHTYMITGN.VCVDVIKKIIELGGDMDMKCVngmspimtymtnidnvnpe
> > itnayiesldgdkvknipmilhsyitlarnidisvvysflqpgvklhykdsagrtclhqyilrhnistni
> > ikllheygndvnepdnigntvlhtylsmlsvvhildpetdndirldviqcllslgaditavnclgytplt
> > syictaqnymyydiidclisdkvlnmvkhrilqdllirvddtpciihhiiakyniptdlytdeyepydst
> > dihdvyhcaiierynnavcetsgmtplhvsiishtnanivmdsfvyllsiqaniniptkngvdplmltme
> > nnmlsghqwylvknildkrpnvdivisfldkcyaagkfpslllseddiikptlrlalmlagldycnkcie
> > ymerdiaildnshamflafdklvsirdnidkltklhinsrsnisiydilvskcykediithrenhnlvac
> > chgndplydiinkyitdarsmyyiandisryimdmypvmripvpllfsciigifrltyfkkiiidrhhds
> > finarltdea
> >
> > I know we can use a substitution matrix (i.e., blosum62;
> > http://www.uky.edu/Classes/BIO/520/BIO520WWW/blosum62.htm) to say how
> likely
> > it is for one of the letters to change to another letter, but how do I
> > incorporate that likelihood given that likelihood of the previous letter
> > (the likelihood that the second column is an L, given the first column is
> a
> > D (obviously pretty high in the above example).
> > Here's a snippet of what was generated for this example:
> > HMM          A        C        D        E        F        G        H
> >  I        K        L        M        N        P        Q        R
>  S
> >      T        V        W        Y
> >             m->m     m->i     m->d     i->m     i->i     d->m     d->d
> >   COMPO   2.95757  3.22921  2.84828  2.93689  4.02506  2.84493  3.33255
> >  2.33133  2.65067  2.12155  3.45566  3.32303  3.36052  3.85947  3.13260
> >  2.99602  2.82345  2.43542  5.63061  3.48580
> >           2.68618  4.42225  2.77519  2.73123  3.46354  2.40513  3.72494
> >  3.29354  2.67741  2.69355  4.24690  2.90347  2.73739  3.18146  2.89801
> >  2.37887  2.77519  2.98518  4.58477  3.61503
> >           0.01686  4.48732  5.20967  0.61958  0.77255  0.00000        *
> >       1   3.06925  5.62515  1.55218  2.36308  4.87352  3.48242  2.02657
> >  4.44300  2.84967  3.92317  4.73346  1.82577  4.04654  3.07283  3.40453
> >  2.97597  3.33762  4.00967  6.04161  4.55323      1 x -
> >           2.68618  4.42225  2.77519  2.73123  3.46354  2.40513  3.72494
> >  3.29354  2.67741  2.69355  4.24690  2.90347  2.73739  3.18146  2.89801
> >  2.37887  2.77519  2.98518  4.58477  3.61503
> >           0.01686  4.48732  5.20967  0.61958  0.77255  0.48576  0.95510
> >
> > Err.. at this point I'm so confused on what the actual product of an HMM
> > actually is, I forget all I did know...
> > Has anyone worked with HMMs in a different context? Are there toy
> examples
> > we could write?  Do you have any input on this?
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Glen
> > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Markov_model
> > --
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> > boldness has beauty, magic, and power in it.
> >
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