[EEG] Notes from EEG meeting

Vlad Spears spears at 2secondfuse.com
Mon Apr 6 15:59:56 PDT 2009

Super news, Jonathan.  It will be great to see what Emotiv's working  
with on the hardware side.


On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:11 PM, Jonathan Foote wrote:

> Thanks Kelly for excellent notes. I added some details about the
> boards and enclosures.
> In a development that could be exciting but probably isn't, I ran into
> Kal Spelletich this morning. If I understand him right (not always a
> given) he has both an Emotiv headset and a spare set of OpenEEG
> boards. He said he's not using them and would contribute them to the
> cause. I think the Emotiv headset may be fairly useless without the
> api/driver/software but we could at least investigate their electrode
> setup. I'm still on the record as being Very Skeptical about them.
> Anyway I'll be by his studio later this week and see what I can come
> away with.
> Kelly suggests another ping to the main NB list which I think is a
> splendid idea.
> Rachel, may we PayPal you some contributions for the electrode cap?
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> There are notes from our second meeting on the wiki:
>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/OpenEEG#Meetup_the_Second
>> And I also added some brief notes at the beginning of the page with  
>> some
>> links.  There's a link to a video of a pretty classic ERP method of  
>> text
>> selection.
>> I think the big highlight is that Rachel said she's going to buy  
>> the cap.
>> Jake sent us the link to that (it's on the wiki page).  I seem to  
>> recall an
>> additional package of peripherals that we were considering  
>> buying...?  Can't
>> recall.  If anyone remembers, tell Rachel.
>> We mostly talked about further hardware troubleshooting, but also  
>> talked a
>> little more about the various methods of EEG analysis.  We also  
>> talked about
>> Emotiv's headset some more, and I linked the video of their demo in  
>> the
>> notes.  One thing that came up a few times was using EEG to control  
>> precise
>> movements, like in the Pong video (linked on wiki) or in Emotiv's  
>> demo.  I'm assuming that this is using motor cortex data, which  
>> would be
>> awesome.  That would mean we could use gestures (or possibly just  
>> imagined
>> gestures) as a recognizable cognitive event.
>> Which brings me to one thing that we didn't talk about much, the  
>> passthought
>> project.  Jake couldn't make it, and we didn't have too many of our
>> programmers, so that whole genre of material didn't get discussed  
>> much, but
>> I'd really like to brainstorm next time about some of the cognitive  
>> events
>> we could use as the actual passthought, and what other security  
>> features
>> would be useful. I'm sure we can count on Jake to be vocal about  
>> this in the
>> future, but I seem to recall some other folks were interested in that
>> problem as well.  The idea of a passthought that's gesture based is  
>> really
>> exciting to me.  There's a lot of interesting neuroscience around  
>> mirror
>> neurons [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_neuron] that would be  
>> cool to
>> leverage as well (possibly for the security angle?).  And I happen  
>> to know
>> that there's been research in detecting mirror neuron activity with  
>> EEG.
>> Anyway, I'm excited about this whole motion detection thing, and  
>> that'll be
>> my research item this week.  There's actually kind of a lot that we  
>> need to
>> research so if anyone's interested in spending some quality time on  
>> the
>> googles, ping me and maybe we can find something you're interested in
>> amongst the vast catalog of Shit We Need To Research.
>> And I think that the Sunday time was nice.  It's fairly mellow at  
>> 83c.  The
>> turnout was definitely less, so if any of you that couldn't make it  
>> were
>> actually unable to make that time in particular, let us know.   
>> Otherwise,
>> I'm assuming we'll meet again next Sunday at teatime.
>> -K
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