[EEG] [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE

Mitch Altman maltman23 at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 28 11:31:25 PST 2010


Are there specific things that need to be coded?

 

Mitch.

 


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> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:37:56 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
> From: hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com
> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
> CC: dp at danielpacker.org; eeg at lists.noisebridge.net; askory at gmail.com; noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net; mrericboyd at yahoo.com; cyborg at lists.noisebridge.net; ch_luk at berkeley.edu
> 
> Heh, that all sounds awesome, and we can probably do it all. We just
> need some coders.
> 
> -K
> 
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Cool idea.  Let's have an EEG event!  I'd love to help.  We can create some
> > simple projects to show off how brainwaves can be used -- first of all just
> > displaying them.  Then maybe making a video run forwards and backwards, like
> > I saw some people showing off at Yuri's night?  And maybe making a screen
> > change colors?
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
> >
> > ---------------
> >> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:07:25 -0800
> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
> >> From: hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com
> >> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
> >> CC: dp at danielpacker.org; eeg at lists.noisebridge.net; askory at gmail.com;
> >> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net; mrericboyd at yahoo.com;
> >> cyborg at lists.noisebridge.net; ch_luk at berkeley.edu
> >>
> >> I think that we'll have an operable EEG rig for sure, probably Tracy's
> >> 6 channel, so at this point we just need software to do something
> >> interesting with the data. I've been mulling over how to get more
> >> software people involved now that the hardware is under control.
> >>
> >> I kinda think we need to have an eeg event or presentation of some
> >> kind to recruit the larger noisebridgian community.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Cool that there are projects that are using the OpenEEG boards!  Are any
> >> > of
> >> > the projects ones that would be good to show off at The Next HOPE or the
> >> > SF
> >> > Maker Faire?
> >> >
> >> > Mitch.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --------------
> >> >> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:29:21 -0800
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
> >> >> From: hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com
> >> >> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
> >> >> CC: dp at danielpacker.org; eeg at lists.noisebridge.net; askory at gmail.com;
> >> >> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net; mrericboyd at yahoo.com;
> >> >> cyborg at lists.noisebridge.net; ch_luk at berkeley.edu
> >> >>
> >> >> Not only are all of the analog boards claimed, but there aren't enough
> >> >> for the current projects in progress. I recommend ordering 3:1 analog
> >> >> to digital boards. We have a spare digital board though, fyi.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > We have a few OpenEEG boards at NB.  I'm not sure if all of them are
> >> >> > claimed
> >> >> > for projects already.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In any case I think that a collaborative project with one or more
> >> >> > human
> >> >> > body
> >> >> > interfaces would be way interesting.  Daniel, maybe you could put out
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > word in other places, too.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mitch.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -------------------
> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:37:16 -0800
> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
> >> >> >> From: hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com
> >> >> >> To: dp at danielpacker.org
> >> >> >> CC: maltman23 at hotmail.com; eeg at lists.noisebridge.net;
> >> >> >> askory at gmail.com;
> >> >> >> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net; mrericboyd at yahoo.com;
> >> >> >> cyborg at lists.noisebridge.net; ch_luk at berkeley.edu
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I see that nb-cyborg is cc-ed, but I thought I'd mention that
> >> >> >> they've
> >> >> >> done some similar projects.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -Kelly
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Daniel Packer <dp at danielpacker.org>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > @Mitch - Hoping to make it this weekend!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > My goal with the ECG is to design a board and do a DIY kit build
> >> >> >> > with
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > toner transfer method, so I could definitely work on getting the
> >> >> >> > kit
> >> >> >> > displayed at HOPE. Beyond that, I may have time to work on my own
> >> >> >> > OpenEEG
> >> >> >> > but I'm not sure. Maybe with help from the lists I'll do alright.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If anyone has any robotic projects or ideas that would pair well
> >> >> >> > with
> >> >> >> > ECG
> >> >> >> > let me know and we can brainstorm. My ideas were either an ECG
> >> >> >> > printout
> >> >> >> > you
> >> >> >> > can take home with you, or a robotic oversized arduino controlled
> >> >> >> > plush
> >> >> >> > heart that beats in sync, and is physiologically accurate
> >> >> >> > (representing
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > linear firing of the heart muscles).
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Might be interesting to work on correlating data from an eeg and
> >> >> >> > ecg
> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> > some entertaining purpose, if such a thing is possible.
> >> >> >> > Temperature,
> >> >> >> > blood
> >> >> >> > pressure, and other simple signals could be mixed in for effect.
> >> >> >> > I'm
> >> >> >> > just
> >> >> >> > throwing things out there a bit randomly.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I've signed up for the EEG/cyborg lists and will keep an eye on
> >> >> >> > this
> >> >> >> > thread
> >> >> >> > and post thoughts as they come.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > -Daniel (obscurite on #hacdc on freenode)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Mitch Altman
> >> >> >> > <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Hi Daniel,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Having the ECG project at The Next HOPE will be cool.  I think
> >> >> >> >> people
> >> >> >> >> there will like it.  I think that if we had ECG with a few
> >> >> >> >> other human
> >> >> >> >> interfaces (North Paw, OpenEEG, etc.) it would be way fun
> >> >> >> >> and popular
> >> >> >> >> at the
> >> >> >> >> conference.  We need people to pipe in, and to make this happen!
> >> >> >> >> If
> >> >> >> >> we
> >> >> >> >> had
> >> >> >> >> a way(s) to control a robot by changing our body that would be
> >> >> >> >> awesome!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> ECG is probably an easier way to start out than EEG.  But the
> >> >> >> >> OpenEEG
> >> >> >> >> project makes the hardware easy (and pretty inexpensive, too).
> >> >> >> >> Electrodes
> >> >> >> >> seem to be the most challenging, but some people, such as
> >> >> >> >> Andreas,
> >> >> >> >> who's
> >> >> >> >> been hanging out at Noisebridge doing way cool EEG stuff, have it
> >> >> >> >> down!  So,
> >> >> >> >> please feel free to comment and/or ask questions on the
> >> >> >> >> Noisebridge
> >> >> >> >> EEG
> >> >> >> >> list.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Please do come to the workshop at Baltimore-Node.  They seem like
> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> really
> >> >> >> >> good group of people.  Following my workshop on Saturday they are
> >> >> >> >> having a
> >> >> >> >> 6-month anniversary open house.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> >> >> Mitch.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> ________________________________
> >> >> >> >> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:12:27 -0500
> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
> >> >> >> >> From: dp at danielpacker.org
> >> >> >> >> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
> >> >> >> >> CC: noisebridge at saizai.com;
> >> >> >> >> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net;
> >> >> >> >> eeg at lists.noisebridge.net; cyborg at lists.noisebridge.net
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Hey Mitch,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I've never been to the baltimore node and I hear you're supposed
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> >> there this weekend. Maybe I'll make a trip up!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I'm working on a low cost version of an ECG amp front that can be
> >> >> >> >> assembled as a kit. Once that's working I'll refine it with an
> >> >> >> >> instrumentation amp and add more electrodes. Then I have to work
> >> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> >> ADC
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> signals processing. I have a Xilinx Spartan-3E board with some
> >> >> >> >> onboard
> >> >> >> >> ADC
> >> >> >> >> hardware that might work well as a processing host with the
> >> >> >> >> picoblaze
> >> >> >> >> soft
> >> >> >> >> processor loaded up. Still ironing out the kinks in getting my
> >> >> >> >> computer
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> talk to the board though ;) I'm also interested in what cheap
> >> >> >> >> microcontrollers might be able to handle.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> EEG seems considerably more ambitious than ECG, but I'd like to
> >> >> >> >> move
> >> >> >> >> onto
> >> >> >> >> EEG once I get the hang of ECG for sure.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I'm open to working on any kind of human machine interface
> >> >> >> >> project,
> >> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> >> this is what I'm focusing on right now as an entry point into bio
> >> >> >> >> signals.
> >> >> >> >> I'd be interested in biofeedback related stuff, driving robots or
> >> >> >> >> other
> >> >> >> >> systems with the heart signal, etc.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> -Daniel
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Mitch Altman
> >> >> >> >> <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> (Thanks for passing that to the list again, Sai.)
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Hi Daniel,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The ECG would be a way fun project to show off!  I'm also copying
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> EEG
> >> >> >> >> and Cyborg lists here, since there's probably projects that could
> >> >> >> >> all
> >> >> >> >> fit nicely together.  North Paw would certainly be one.  Any
> >> >> >> >> other
> >> >> >> >> Cyborg
> >> >> >> >> projects that would be cool to show off at The Next HOPE?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Can we get a cool EEG project together for The Next HOPE?  Any
> >> >> >> >> ideas?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> >> >> Mitch.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> p.s.  I almost made it to DC this trip out East, but couldn't
> >> >> >> >> quite
> >> >> >> >> fit
> >> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> >> in.  Nick said you are kicking ass in DC, Daniel.  Yay!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> -----------------------
> >> >> >> >> > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:59:55 -0800
> >> >> >> >> > Subject: Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
> >> >> >> >> > From: noisebridge at saizai.com
> >> >> >> >> > To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
> >> >> >> >> > CC: dp at danielpacker.org
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Missent.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> >> >> >> > From: Daniel Packer <dp at danielpacker.org>
> >> >> >> >> > Date: Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:12 PM
> >> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Next HOPE
> >> >> >> >> > To: Sai Emrys <noisebridge at saizai.com>
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Awesome, can't wait.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I'm be down for helping organize, and likely so would several
> >> >> >> >> > other
> >> >> >> >> > folks here at HacDC. Not just because it falls on my birthday,
> >> >> >> >> > either.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Since I'm NB alum, maybe we could share a project. I'm building
> >> >> >> >> > very
> >> >> >> >> > basic ECG equipment at the moment, and hope to use
> >> >> >> >> > microcontrollers
> >> >> >> >> > and FPGAs (I have the boards) to do real time processing on
> >> >> >> >> > these
> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> > other signals. July is enough time for me to work up to a much
> >> >> >> >> > nicer
> >> >> >> >> > ECG design and do some software, especially with help. We could
> >> >> >> >> > set
> >> >> >> >> > up
> >> >> >> >> > a booth where people can come in and get hooked up and maybe
> >> >> >> >> > have
> >> >> >> >> > an
> >> >> >> >> > artificial heart pump to their real heartbeat or something fun
> >> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> >> > makes it more than just a science project. Might dovetail
> >> >> >> >> > nicely
> >> >> >> >> > with
> >> >> >> >> > wearable/cyborg stuff.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Anyway, congrats and good luck guys!
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > -Daniel (obscurite on #hacdc on freenode)
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Sai Emrys
> >> >> >> >> > <noisebridge at saizai.com>
> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > Definitely show off the Northpaw.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
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> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >
 		 	   		  
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