[Neuro] Eyes-open EEG stimulation via the ear canals

Sai noisebridge at saizai.com
Wed Oct 10 00:11:17 UTC 2012


On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Gregory Perry
<Gregory.Perry at govirtual.tv> wrote:
> Here is one somewhat relevant study published a few months ago that does in fact show that neurons in a primate's brain are activated by blue light:

Actually no, that study isn't relevant. It's about optogenetics in a
different, genetically engineered species.

Do you know what optogenetics even is? It's when researchers create
genetically modified organisms whose cells have artificially inserted
light receptors. Then you can shine bright light *directly on the
brain cell*, using probes pushed directly into the brain, and *then*
you get to have reactions.

You do not have the genetic modifications needed for that, nor are you
putting probes into your brain.

The fact that you don't seem to understand the difference is not a
good sign for your proposed research.


On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Steve Omohundro
<steveomohundro at gmail.com> wrote:
> There were a flurry of articles about this recently:

AFAICT they are all from this company's own claimed research. Their
claims are not even peer-reviewed (just presented at conferences), let
alone replicated or in a "medical trial" (that's actually a Thing, you
know, not just some word you randomly toss out).

That's a giant fucking red flag for bullshit — commercial product
claims non peer reviewed research published after they made the
product and done only by themselves. Just like the people who
manufacture the magnetic wristbands.

- Sai


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