[Neuro] Neuro Digest, Vol 35, Issue 2

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Mon Aug 5 14:40:50 UTC 2013


There is no fine motor control over the tail and it is a binary on/off that
is triggered by brainwave entrainment.  The interesting thing I garnered
from the paper was that brainwave entrainment can be used as an almost 100
percent accurate mental switch. As a game developer that is very
interesting to note.


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:00 AM, <neuro-request at lists.noisebridge.net> wrote:

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> I have an phased ultrasonic emitter array.  Also an eeg headset (emotive).
>  All we need to recreate this is a rat.   I think noisebridge needs a lab
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> On 08/04/2013 04:00 AM, Kevin Schiesser wrote:
> > Is focused ultrasound similar to transcranial direct current stimulation?
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> Probably not. Neither phenomena is all that well understood (TDCS only
> looks that way until you dig far enough down to get to the "then the
> magic happens" part. We know what it does, but not really why it should
> do that).
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> And this seems kinda an odd publication to me unless I am missing
> something, which is possible.
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> Brain wave entrainment is a well understood phenomenon. Unless I am
> deeply missing something here, that's all the trigger is. Look at a
> strobe in a certain frequency range, certain of your brainwaves tend to
> sync with it. This is the same thing that Mitch's flashy glasses do.
> Hooking an eeg trigger to that isn't breaking new ground. And it is
> enormously limited, it is a single channel.
>
> Ditto stimulating motor movement in mice using ultrasound techniques.
>
> Putting both of them together to create "BCI" seems like nothing but
> trying to make a sexy headline.
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> Although, it would be cool to do in a space just for the fun of it, yeah.
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