[Neuro] Neuro Digest, Vol 32, Issue 3

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I am here now and sitting at the electronics bench on the left side as you
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>    1. Re: Readings on the brain and dreaming (Sarah Tappon)
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> Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 09:02:08 -0700
> From: Sarah Tappon <sarah.tappon at gmail.com>
> To: Jade Solomon <jade.solomon at me.com>
> Cc: neuro <neuro at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Neuro] Readings on the brain and dreaming
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> NB: The functional significance of "mirror neurons" in human cognition
> is controversial and a lot of people disagree with Ramachandran. Here
> are some alternate perspectives on the general issue:
>
> http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2012/11/06/whats-so-special-about-mirror-neurons/
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2773693/
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> (My understanding is that there's also mixed evidence on the autism
> link specifically, but I don't know that literature very well.)
>
> -s
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> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Jade Solomon <jade.solomon at me.com> wrote:
> > Hello Dream Team,
> >
> > I've attached some articles you may find interesting, one about mirror
> neurons, and one about dreaming.
> > I'll try to find and share more related articles.
> >
> > - Jade
> >
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> Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 10:36:23 -0700
> From: Anthony Di Franco <di.franco at gmail.com>
> To: Sarah Tappon <sarah.tappon at gmail.com>
> Cc: neuro <neuro at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Neuro] Readings on the brain and dreaming
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> Compare with grandmother cell on a background of fragmentalism vs. wholism
> and sparse vs. distributed coding and correlation vs. causation.
> On May 1, 2013 9:02 AM, "Sarah Tappon" <sarah.tappon at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > NB: The functional significance of "mirror neurons" in human cognition
> > is controversial and a lot of people disagree with Ramachandran. Here
> > are some alternate perspectives on the general issue:
> >
> >
> http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2012/11/06/whats-so-special-about-mirror-neurons/
> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2773693/
> >
> > (My understanding is that there's also mixed evidence on the autism
> > link specifically, but I don't know that literature very well.)
> >
> > -s
> >
> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Jade Solomon <jade.solomon at me.com>
> wrote:
> > > Hello Dream Team,
> > >
> > > I've attached some articles you may find interesting, one about mirror
> > neurons, and one about dreaming.
> > > I'll try to find and share more related articles.
> > >
> > > - Jade
> > >
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> Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 16:49:23 -0700
> From: LinkReincarnate <linkreincarnate at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Neuro] Fwd:  tDCS at Noisebridge?
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> From: LinkReincarnate <linkreincarnate at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Neuro] tDCS at Noisebridge?
> To: Rohan Dixit <rohan at brainbot.me>
> Cc: Chung-Hay Luk <luk at chunghay.com>
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>
> I'll be at noisebridge in about 30 minutes.  Also for anyone else who is
> interested in a tdcs device of their own.  I just made a bulk order to
> build about 25 of them. (only enough electrodes for about 7 kits though)
>  If I had a class at noisebridge on how to build and use tdcs devices would
> people show up and buy the kits? I'd charge 70 dollars a device including
> nice electrodes (5x7 cm or 5x5 cm conductive silicon sponge pouch
> electrodes)  We would cover the device itself, the 10-20 system.  Popular
> montages, and dosage considerations and anything else that people are
> interested in.
>
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Rohan Dixit <rohan at brainbot.me> wrote:
>
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Rohan Dixit <rohan at brainbot.me> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, I'll get one then. Where can i find you?
> >>
> >> Rohan
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 9:55 AM, LinkReincarnate <
> >> linkreincarnate at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> for just the pcb? 5 dollars.
> >>> On May 1, 2013 8:58 AM, "Rohan Dixit" <rohan at brainbot.me> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> That's great, thanks. I saw some open tDCS designs on your website.
> >>>> Interesting stuff.
> >>>>
> >>>> Would be nice to talk more about it. I'm also interested in a good
> >>>> opensource design for tDCS that ideally does some basic things like
> >>>> impendance checking, current ramping etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> How much would you ask for your board? I have some electrodes and
> wires
> >>>> already.
> >>>>
> >>>> (PS I'll be at Noisebridge tonight for the neuro meetup).
> >>>>
> >>>> Rohan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:49 PM, LinkReincarnate <
> >>>> linkreincarnate at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> https://nocko.se/2012/07/30/brain-zapping-is-fun/  that is the
> >>>>> shematic, bom, and gerber files
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Rohan Dixit <rohan at brainbot.me
> >wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Looks like I missed you this weekend (although I am planning to hang
> >>>>>> out at the neuro meetup at noisebridge on Wednesday, if you're
> going to be
> >>>>>> there.)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't know if you've seen the threads from Anthony et al but we're
> >>>>>> trying to build a few of these and standardize our results.. The
> first step
> >>>>>> is building the circuit.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Question:  There are a bunch of designs out there-- do you have a
> >>>>>> link to your schematic/Eagle file? I am interested in making one
> myself, as
> >>>>>> I said, but could also buy it from you if the design's similar and
> it's
> >>>>>> cheap.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Rohan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 8:13 PM, LinkReincarnate <
> >>>>>> linkreincarnate at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> that covers it  I have one left and no electrodes or lead wires. I
> >>>>>>> may have some stuff that will work for diy electrodes though.
>  I'll be at
> >>>>>>> noisebridge today for a while.  By the time you read this I'll be
> there
> >>>>>>> actually.
> >>>>>>>  On Apr 27, 2013 12:24 AM, "Chung-Hay Luk" <luk at chunghay.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Rohan,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   Apologies for not getting back to you this week! I've been
> >>>>>>>> swamped with work and preparing for the NeuroGaming conference<
> http://neurogamingconf.com>that's next week.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   I've CC'ed LinkReincernate (Justin) here, since I bought the
> >>>>>>>> board and electrodes for my tDCS device from him. As mentioned
> before, it's
> >>>>>>>> this one: https://nocko.se/2012/07/30/brain-zapping-is-fun/, and
> >>>>>>>> the adjustable current range is from 0.5 - 2 mA. The electrodes
> are 4" x
> >>>>>>>> 4", from Mettler (
> >>>>>>>>
> http://www.amazon.com/Mettler-Electronics-Sponge-Electrodes-Inserts/dp/B003XWZVIS/ref=sr_1_11
> ).
> >>>>>>>> Justin, feel free to add more details, if I've forgotten anything
> key.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   Rohan, I'm available to chat in person next Friday (May 3) or
> the
> >>>>>>>> following week (May 6-10). Let me know what works best for you.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Smiles,
> >>>>>>>>   Chung-Hay
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Rohan Dixit <rohan at brainbot.me
> >wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Chung!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your kind message, and I'd love to get in touch with
> >>>>>>>>> LinkReincarnate.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Also, curious to hear your experiences and motivations for the
> >>>>>>>>> tDCS rig you've got-- are you around for a coffee or something
> sometime
> >>>>>>>>> this week?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>> Rohan
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Chung-Hay Luk <
> luk at chunghay.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   I've built the device posted by LinkReincarnate (
> >>>>>>>>>> https://nocko.se/2012/07/30/brain-zapping-is-fun/). Current is
> >>>>>>>>>> adjustable from 0.5 - 2 mA. I unfortunately don't have spares,
> but
> >>>>>>>>>> LinkReincarnate might? Maybe he'll reply to this thread. If
> not, PM me, and
> >>>>>>>>>> I can ask him on your behalf.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   My friends and I have been experimenting with tDCS over motor
> >>>>>>>>>> cortex for now, and I'd be happy to nerd out with others. My
> background is
> >>>>>>>>>> also in electrophysiology (+ brain training).
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Smiles,
> >>>>>>>>>>   Chung-Hay
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> @Kelly: Miss you! Come visit!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Anthony Di Franco <
> >>>>>>>>>> di.franco at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I built one, and I have parts for about 5 more. It's a very
> >>>>>>>>>>> simple design I came up with that is just a regulated current
> source
> >>>>>>>>>>> adjustable from 0-2mA.
> >>>>>>>>>>> I only tested it by measuring its output current with a meter
> >>>>>>>>>>> and not through a brain.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Let me know if you want some parts for one.
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm mostly around sudo room in Oakland these days, so you could
> >>>>>>>>>>> come check out sudo room as well if you want.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Anthony
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2013 11:44 AM, "Kelly" <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi rohan,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I moved to Boston, but there are indeed a few Noisebridge
> folks
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that have built tdcs rigs. I'm sure they would be happy to
> chat with you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> See the Noisebridge Neuro list, cc-ed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kelly
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2013 3:55 AM, "Rohan Dixit" <rohan at brainbot.me>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Was wondering if I could find some people interested in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> building a tDCS device. Have you built one before?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My background is in neuroimaging and electrophysiology but am
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> very interested in tDCS. Would you be kind enough to have
> tea or coffee
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> sometime this week at your convenience so I can "pick your
> brain" (promise
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> no devices involved!)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rohan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rohan Dixit
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> www.brainbot.me
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Rohan Dixit
> >>>>>>>>> www.brainbot.me
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Rohan Dixit
> >>>>>> TEDx  video: Meditation neurotechnology <
> http://youtu.be/8uSPygIPqIo>
> >>>>>> www.brainbot.me
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> www.linkreincarnate.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Rohan Dixit
> >>>> TEDx  video: Meditation neurotechnology <http://youtu.be/8uSPygIPqIo>
> >>>> www.brainbot.me
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rohan Dixit
> >> TEDx  video: Meditation neurotechnology <http://youtu.be/8uSPygIPqIo>
> >> www.brainbot.me
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rohan Dixit
> > TEDx  video: Meditation neurotechnology <http://youtu.be/8uSPygIPqIo>
> > www.brainbot.me
> >
> >
>
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