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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Many signals have sometimes been thrown
out at artifacts when actually they are pointing to very interesting phenomena.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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cases considered to be from body movements that are irrelevant to the test and
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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neuro-bounces@lists.noisebridge.net
[mailto:neuro-bounces@lists.noisebridge.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>John Ellis<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 10, 2012
11:45 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Andreas Stadler<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> neuro@lists.noisebridge.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Neuro] Eyes-open EEG
stimulation via the ear canals</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The induced artifact from photic stim cable being close to an EEG lead
is very different from induced brainwaves.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The artifact is very spikey, whereas induced brainwaves are sinewave in
appearance.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Andreas Stadler <<a
href="mailto:rain@meta-mind.de" target="_blank">rain@meta-mind.de</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>this is cool, if the proposed method realy works<br>
without opening up the skull.<br>
<br>
keep in mind, that any electronic equipment,<br>
near, or even in electrical contact with the body,<br>
especially electronic pwm pulses, etc.<br>
will create noise signal artefacts<br>
that the eeg-amplifiers will pickup.<br>
<br>
i don't discard the possibility though,<br>
that something like this is theoretically possible.<br>
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Gru:Cce<br>
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~<st1:place w:st="on">MeTa</st1:place> | MeTaVoluti0N MeTaMecHanICs | <a
href="http://www.Open-BCI.org" target="_blank">www.Open-BCI.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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