[Noisebridge-discuss] policies and procedures (more things you don't want to hear)

Christie Dudley longobord at gmail.com
Sun Jan 2 20:43:51 PST 2011

I admit that the OP was tl;dr.

The biggest problem with any "rule" at Noisebridge is that it's ultimately

Remember the time we tried to keep the dirty hippy out and he climbed the
fire escape to get in?
Think of all the sleeping people!

Until we have a 24x7 hall monitor that we trust with real power and
authority, it just makes people who try to make rules look dumb to have the
rules flagrantly disregarded.  There are sometimes trolls amongst us who
will deliberately flagrantly disregard rules for the purpose of making the
rule-maker look stupid.

While generally, it's a good idea to do or not do certain things, and often
it may even be necessary to write those certain things down, we've kinda
stuck with the "be excellent" as a catch-all for hopefully not having to
tell people that being hurtful to the space or others who use it is bad.

"It is the time you have lost for your rose that makes your rose so
Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

"Too long a sacrifice can make a stone of the heart."
William Butler Yeats

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 9:19 AM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:

> these seem like reasonable tho'ts.
> On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 21:25 -0800, Patrick Keys wrote:
> > Since nobody wants to hear it from me, I'll try to keep this short:
> >
> > Going into this new year, Noisebridge should (needs!) do things like the
> > rest of the world and formally acknowledge some policies and procedures.
> >   You can read more about these types of things at:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policies_and_procedures
> >
> > There are both legal and practical requirements for policies and
> > procedures.  While it sounds cool to claim there's no policies, I'm
> > certain Noisebridge has at least some general policies. "Be excellent to
> > each other", wear shoes while in the space, don't use bittorrent on the
> > noisebridge network, clean up after yourself, don't sleep here overnight
> > are just a few policies that I know exist.
> >
> > As for procedures, Noisebridge has some of those as well.  Post
> > something to the rack list if you modify a server, put money into the
> > drink donations bin if you take a drink from the fridge, etc.  A few
> > more that should seriously be considered are providing a real receipt to
> > the treasurer/bookkeeper if you spend noisebridge money, a procedure to
> > reserve certain resources for a specific date/time (a classroom, use of
> > a projector, etc.), and accepting packages delivered to noisebridge and
> > notifying the recipient.
> >
> > All policies and procedures should be kept in a location that guests and
> > members alike can easily locate.  I recommend:
> > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Policies_and_procedures
> >
> > Policies and procedures prevent petty disputes and allow people that
> > don't know each other very well and don't particularly like each other
> > very much to at least sorta get along with each other.  Noisebridge has
> > too many members and visitors at this point to not have any general
> > policies and procedures.
> >
> > Hopefully this posting will not start a flame war.
> >
> >
> > Happy New Year!
> >
> >
> > Patrick
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