[Noisebridge-discuss] "How Open Source Projects Survive Poisonous People"

Shannon Lee shannon at scatter.com
Mon Jan 3 00:06:03 PST 2011


Gosh, that was very clever, how you noticed that this was aimed at you, and
then turned it around and aimed it back at the person who sent it!  Astute.

It's been the topic of much discussion, lately, whether you know what kind
of impression you've been making.  Clearly you do.  Thank you for clarifying
that.

--S

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com> wrote:

> Your post smells like a troll.
>
> Asking everybody to create personal lists of people in "our community"
> that they will either read or consistently ignore seems very
> close-minded and childish.  Kinda defeats the purpose of a community,
> no? It's also unfortunate that you feel the need to develop a "personal
> coping strategy".
>
> Simply put, I think you are "being that guy".
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
> On 1/2/2011 9:50 PM, Josh Myer wrote:
> > Interesting Google TechTalk from some key Subversion developers on their
> > community management, and how to deal with "poisonous people."
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeE
> >
> > Everyone should go watch that, and, as they discuss key problems with
> > Poisonous People, ask yourself, "Am I being That Guy?"  If your'e not,
> > think of people who are; you're sure to find a handful of them in the
> > projects you're a part of.
> >
> > Relatedly, it's worth mentioning the Five Geek Social Fallacies again:
> > http://www.plausiblydeniable.com/opinion/gsf.html
> >
> > In particuarly, GSF#1: "Ostracizers are Evil," is appropriate here.
> >   Poisonous people have to either work to get better or move on.  That's
> > that.  We, as a community, need to be better about encouraging this kind
> > of healthy reaction, instead of allowing our radical inclusivity to be
> > used to allow abusive people to emotionally abuse our community.
> >
> > My personal coping strategy: there are a handful of people who, when
> > they reply to an email thread, make that thread dead to me.  I'll read
> > further replies from a small handful of people I trust to be really
> > awesome, but, otherwise, I just ignore it. There are enough other
> > reasonable people in the community; my particular input isn't unique nor
> > necessary.  I encourage everyone else to take a minute and create their
> > own list (I'm sure my name will grace a few), and try it for a while.
> >   It makes the list a lot less irritating, and might be good for
> > universal accord.
> > --
> > /jbm
> >
> >
> >
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